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XSF Discussion | Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/ | Agenda https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings

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[16:33:06] <stpeter> and Chris
[16:33:56] <Kev> I've poked Dave.
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[16:34:30] <stpeter> Kev: thanks
[16:35:14] <stpeter> I don't see Florian online
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[16:35:49] <Dave Cridland> *sigh*
[16:36:08] <Dave Cridland> Sorry, folks, I'm in a world of craziness.
[16:36:24] <stpeter> yeah
[16:36:34] <Ashley> fwiw, i'll be mulititasking
[16:37:07] <stpeter> well, at least you guys are quorate, if bear is paying attention :)
[16:37:10] <bear> :)
[16:37:14] <stpeter> heh
[16:37:18] *stpeter waves to bear
[16:37:19] *bear keeps it short:
[16:37:22] *bear waves
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[16:37:34] <bear> i'll be there for krtconf and also before and after
[16:37:39] <stpeter> great
[16:37:51] <bear> going to combine krtconf with some holiday time
[16:37:54] <Kev> It's cunningly timed so I can't be.
[16:38:01] <stpeter> cunning, eh?
[16:38:01] <Dave Cridland> Kev, It is?
[16:38:28] <Kev> Dave Cridland: See the staff calendar.
[16:38:48] <Dave Cridland> Kev, Assuming our illustrious CEO hasn't wiped it again. :-)
[16:39:03] <Kev> KRT is 24th Oct or so, isn't it?
[16:39:11] <stpeter> so the question is, do folks think this is the best time and place to hold a Summit in North America for 2012? I would be sorry not to have Kev there
[16:39:17] <stpeter> Kev: KRT is 24+24
[16:39:18] <stpeter> er
[16:39:21] <stpeter> 23 + 24
[16:39:29] <stpeter> Summit would be 25
[16:39:40] <stpeter> (if we decide that one day is enough)
[16:40:10] <Dave Cridland> I think if we want a NA summit (and I think we do) then KRTConf is perfect for it.
[16:40:20] <stpeter> Dave Cridland: yes, I think so too
[16:40:23] <Ashley> +1
[16:40:40] <Kev> In theory it's possible for me to travel on the 24th to get there for the 25. If Isode want to send me.
[16:41:19] <stpeter> I will need to figure out the logistics of a place to meet etc., although Adam said he would connect me to the folks at &yet who are working that side of things
[16:41:35] <Kev> We had two days for the EU summit - do we imagine we'll have less to discuss in the US (or that the two days for Brussels were overkill)?
[16:41:39] <stpeter> and worst comes to worst there's a Cisco office in Portland, although it's somewhat on the edge of town IIRC
[16:42:01] <stpeter> Kev: I think that if we were better organized, we could have one full day
[16:42:14] <stpeter> I don't think I organized the last Brussels meeting very well
[16:42:29] <Kev> ISTR it going pretty well, but OK.
[16:42:35] <stpeter> but I was rather busy at the time with IETF madness
[16:43:00] <stpeter> another option is to have a Summit on Thursday and then a (smaller?) gathering on Friday
[16:43:08] <Dave Cridland> I thought the summit went well, too.
[16:43:25] <stpeter> I think we'll get some overflow from KRT into Thursday
[16:43:34] <Dave Cridland> I'm happy to do two days, but I'd like to know costs, too.
[16:44:22] <stpeter> BTW I will be helping Adam recruit speakers for KRT, and feel free to do some of that yourselves (or volunteer to give a talk): http://blog.krtconf.com/post/24012727201/krtconf-2012-call-for-speakers
[16:45:04] <stpeter> in any case, if we think this is a good idea I can post to the website and start organizing the logistics a bit
[16:45:42] <Dave Cridland> I think it's a fine idea. If we can get a second day, that seems fine too.
[16:46:14] <Dave Cridland> I'd also suggest doing an XSF Dinner in Portland, too.
[16:46:51] <Kev> Does Portland do ribs or steak? :)
[16:46:53] <Dave Cridland> So, in my view, go ahead and post.
[16:46:56] <bear> mozilla has an office (or soon will) in Portland
[16:47:04] <Dave Cridland> Kev, There may be Kev-compatible food.
[16:47:06] <bear> so we may have more resources than just cisco
[16:47:07] <stpeter> bear: good to know!
[16:47:13] <stpeter> bear: thanks
[16:47:21] <stpeter> kev: I'm sure we can find that, yes
[16:47:39] <bear> yes, portland has quite a few meat options to pick from :)
[16:47:41] <stpeter> Dave Cridland: yes on dinner, probably Thursday evening
[16:47:51] <Dave Cridland> Right - I must dash, really, got to be a Daddy-taxi, so:
[16:47:54] <Kev> Then there's just the problem of finding people who speak English...
[16:48:00] <stpeter> heehee
[16:48:02] <Dave Cridland> I say Peter should go ahead and organize things.
[16:48:09] <Dave Cridland> Kev, It's OK, my Spanish is passable.
[16:48:34] <Kev> ISTR having a really good burger last time I was in Portland.
[16:48:50] <stpeter> as to two days, my concern was not cutting into people's weekends, especially for folks who have a long way to travel
[16:49:02] <stpeter> but I'm open to 1 day, 1.5 days, or 2 days
[16:49:17] <Dave Cridland> Right, I'm off, sorry - but number of days we can decide based on logistics and cost later.
[16:49:22] <stpeter> yes
[16:49:24] <stpeter> agreed
[16:49:32] *bear nods
[16:49:54] <stpeter> so I'll at least start our organizational activities and we can meet again in a few weeks to figure out more details
[16:50:01] <bear> lets find out from &yet what the options are and meet again?
[16:50:03] <Kev> Thanks.
[16:50:13] <stpeter> bear: yes
[16:50:20] <bear> coolness - thanks
[16:50:59] <stpeter> anything else for today?
[16:51:24] <bear> not that I know of
[16:51:29] <stpeter> ok
[16:51:32] <Ashley> ok
[16:51:38] *stpeter logs into WordPress and writes a blog post
[16:51:39] <bear> motion to end
[16:51:58] <bear> later then
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[16:52:04] <Ashley> +1
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[16:52:45] <stpeter> thanks, guys
[16:53:36] <Ashley> welcom
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[16:55:24] <ralphm> bah, missed it
[16:55:27] <stpeter> bah!
[16:55:49] <Ashley> we're fast!
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[16:57:15] <stpeter> ralphm: basic idea is to hold the next Summit on the day or two after krtconf http://blog.krtconf.com/post/24012727201/krtconf-2012-call-for-speakers
[16:57:31] <ralphm> ok
[16:58:21] <ralphm> so for next FOSDEM we had decided to do the two days ahead of FOSDEM
[16:58:57] <ralphm> not sure if we would need to do the same here
[16:59:27] <stpeter> ralphm: &yet is holding a redis conference on the day before krtconf, so the day or two after krtconf makes more sense this time
[16:59:35] <ralphm> right
[16:59:36] <ralphm> ok
[16:59:56] <ralphm> I think it's a great idea anyway
[17:00:08] <stpeter> cool
[17:02:38] <stpeter> BTW, Adam said that krtconf will be capped at ~200 people
[17:02:51] <stpeter> so if you want to be there, you'll want to pay attention and sign up early
[17:03:21] <ralphm> I put in my e-mail address
[17:03:43] <stpeter> yay for email ;-)
[17:06:16] <stpeter> http://xmpp.org/2012/06/xmpp-summit/
[17:08:13] <Kev> Thanks Peter.
[17:08:44] <stpeter> sure thing
[17:08:56] <stpeter> sorry about the American spellings ;-)
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[17:11:15] <Kev> Forgiven.
[17:12:21] <stpeter> Kev: if needed, we can set up live translation between English and American at the meeting ;-)
[17:14:16] <Kev> OK.
[17:14:22] <Kev> Assuming someone wants to send me there :)
[17:14:31] <stpeter> assuming, yes
[17:15:00] <Kev> 12000 miles for one day of conference seems a little excessive.
[17:16:17] <stpeter> yeah
[17:16:28] <stpeter> I'm not wedded to one day
[17:16:42] <stpeter> I just want to make sure the time is productive
[17:17:12] <stpeter> although the conversations at the last few Summits have been interesting, I don't feel that we've followed up as needed to make those ideas a reality
[17:17:55] <Kev> I think there might be value in doing two days - one as a day of internal presentations, and one as a discussion day.
[17:18:19] <stpeter> Kev: quite possibly, yes
[17:18:42] <stpeter> I should have more time to organize the event this time, if we want it to be more organized ;-)
[17:18:47] <Kev> As there are people doing interesting non-OSS stuff with XMPP that I'd like to hear talks by, and isn't really FOSDEM compatible (I'm thinking of Echobit in particular).
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[17:19:44] <stpeter> we could also possibly have tracks or breakouts -- e.g., I know a fair number of people doing Internet of Things / machine-to-machine stuff with XMPP these days
[17:20:27] <Kev> Perhaps we could work on the theory that there will be talks, and there will be discussions, and ask what topics and what talks people would like.
[17:20:39] <Kev> Then we can decide to have an IoT track as appropriate.
[17:20:47] <stpeter> indeed
[17:20:57] <stpeter> and I always believe that cross-pollination is a good idea
[17:21:20] <Kev> I'd like the IoT guys to give an IoT 101, personally.
[17:21:37] <stpeter> true
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