Wednesday, August 29, 2012
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XSF Discussion | Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/ | Agenda https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings

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[06:19:56] <Alex> mail
[06:20:16] <Alex> ups sorry
[06:20:36] <Alex> each message comes twice here with the latest Psi version
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[15:41:55] <Zash> stpeter, I've looked at DANE and DNA and stuff. It seems to be all about a client verifying a server that it's connecting to. Do you know if anyone tried dealing with the case where a server wants to auth an incoming client connection? I found some thread on the dane list, but it didn't lead anywhere.
[15:47:04] <stpeter> Zash: by "auth an incoming client connection" do you mean using SASL EXTERNAL and client certificates?
[15:47:25] <Zash> Yes
[15:47:37] <Zash> For s2s connections mainly
[15:48:19] <stpeter> ah, for s2s
[15:48:43] <stpeter> I added a bit of text about that to RFC 6125 IIRC, or maybe it just ended up in RFC 6120
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[15:50:43] <Zash> in relation to DANE?
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[15:52:34] <stpeter> no
[15:52:40] <stpeter> because DANE didn't exist back then :)
[15:52:49] <Zash> Right
[15:53:57] <stpeter> basically, in s2s each server would handle things mostly in the same way, because the connection needs to be validated in each direction -- hold for URL about some more specific text
[15:54:52] <Zash> The undefined bit seems to be where to look for a TLSA record when you have an incomming connection
[15:56:11] <stpeter> http://xmpp.org/rfcs/rfc6120.html#security-certificates-validation-server
[15:56:50] <stpeter> Zash: right
[15:57:26] <stpeter> Zash: Jeff Hodges and I need to update RFC 6125 to incorporate the thinking from DANE, but it was such a lot of work the first time around that we don't want to open the can of worms again
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