XSF Discussion - 2013-01-24

hello

anybody here?

I am :)

(Y)

the others only virtual ;-)

maybe :)

I bet that Lance is really here

yep

see :)

okay, lets start

here is our agenda for today: http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/meeting-minutes/xsf-member-meeting-2013-01-24/

1) Call for Quorum

as you can see 32 members voted with the bot or amail, so we have a quorum

yes

2) Items Subject to a Vote

New and Returning members, you can see all applicants here: http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Membership_Applications_Q4_2012

3) Opportunity for XSF Members to Vote in the Meeting

anybody wants to vote in the meeting?

I guess not, so I'll prepare the results

some of the people here in the chatroom didn't vote through memberbot, but perhaps they are asleep :)

4) Announcement of Voting Results

if you reload teh page at: http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/meeting-minutes/xsf-member-meeting-2013-01-24/ you can see the results

all new and returning members are accepted

so congrats to all of them

shocked?

j/k

I don't have any other business

5) Any Other Business?

although I think we had consensus to move memberbot to xmpp.org

I don't have either

yes

I need an account then I can convert the roster, no big deal

yes

the messages Kack posted about on the list must be related to pubsub I think

we don't allow registration, but I can create an account

let me see about doing that right now before I get busy with something else ;-)

when I run it debug I often see PEP messages which should not be there

really?

then memberbot replies, ike he does to every message

ah

I see

heh

weird

but should be an easy fix

I think this was a bug in a pretty old ejabberd version

well, I will have a new version we can test with at the summit. I finally found time to work on it again

6) Formal Adjournment

I motion that we adjourn

thanks guys

thank you!

I'll let you know when I've created the memberbot@xmpp.org account

okay, thanks

Alex: done, except I changed 'o' to zero in the existing pw ;-)

thanks

test it out and let me know if it works

all 'o' to zero?

yes

brb

and yes I need to get a new certificate for xmpp.org

in process

hm not-authorized

tests even

memberbot@xmpp.org?

yes

should be

checking the logs now

aha

I see a permissions problem, I think

connect takes forever, probably teh same as on jabber.org because of the dns

it was super fast here

I'm logged in as memberbot now

Psi has problems since the DNS changed after the last attack

the account file was read-only and owned by root :)

I think the first record is wrong and it needs to take the second, timeout is very high there

hmm

I'm sure we'd be happy to fix the DNS

heh, two subscription requests already

I have not checked it, and don't know if Kev reverted it after the attack

maybe they were sent a long time ago

but since this changes Psi on Windows needs 2 minutes to connect

interesting that Prosody stored the inbound subscription requests even though the account did not exist

logged in as well now

ok good

I didn't approve the subscription requests

I can try the good old rostertools

:)

when is the meeting?

bear: it's done :)

oh poo

while you two are updating rosters, can I update my JID in whatever records we keep to lance@lance.im?

Lance: sure

I think I'll update mine to stpeter@stpeter.im while we're at it

A client with supports rosterexchange would help

yeah

looks like my Psi version does not support it

I need to finally get prosody running on bear@bear.im

heh

all the cool kids have .im domains ;-)

:)

they are terrible expensive here ;-)

I wonder if someone has sam.im (as in "I do not like green eggs and ham, I do not like them, sam.im")

Alex: yeah, they are

yea, 4 letter .im domains are pricy

or, heck, idonotlikegreeneggsandhamidonotlikethemsam.im ;-)

the guy who ran the first ISP I used had 3.am and 10.am -- his email addresses were up@3.am and breakfast@10.am ;-)

lol

:D

oh foo - I need to be in philadelphia in an hour and it takes 30 minutes to get there...

uh

oh

heh

go bear go!

Alex: I was just chatting with MiGri and he wasn't able to vote via memberbot@jabber.org because of s2s problems caused by the certificate at jabber.org -- just so you know, it could be that others were not able to vote either

ya, talking to him right now

ok

heh

I think mine was already up to date

it would be interesting to require a PGP key for membership / voting ;-)

are there iptables for outgoing sockets on athena?

sadly, only Winfried and I have affirmed that we'll be doing a keysigning at the summit: http://wiki.xmpp.org:12480/web/Summit_13#GPG_key_signing

I'll be joining the party for that

Alex: not sure, let me check

DEBUG: DEBUG: Debug created for /var/xsf/voting/xmlstream.py DEBUG: flags defined: always DEBUG: stream init called DEBUG: client connect called to xmpp.org 5222 type 1 DEBUG: socket error: [Errno 111] Connection refused Couldn't connect: [Errno 111] Connection refused

I just need to generate a new key

ah

xmpp.org is not served on 5222

... $ dig +short -t SRV _xmpp-client._tcp.xmpp.org 0 0 9222 athena.jabber.org.

puh

we could change that

Could we?

no idea how to change this in teh old bot code

not sure

Alex: oh, yeah, SRV lookups and all that

stpeter: There was a reason for not doing it, IIRc.

Oh, right. Jabber.org used to point to athena, which then port forwarded 5222.

right

this is the code to connect: con = jabber.Client(host=Server,debug=True,log=sys.stderr) try: con.connect() except IOError, e: print "Couldn't connect: %s" % e sys.exit(0) else: if (debug == 1): print ("Connected")

any idea how to pass host and port in jabberpy ?

oh, jabberpy not sleek. I'd just try passing port= in that Client constructor

can we just take the memberbot offline until the summit where we can replace it with a sleek version?

That'd seem reasonable to me.

while the rest of you are all talking technical xmpp stuff, I can hack some python code

does xmpp.org support old jabber style auth?

Alex: I doubt it

I need to run into town, please do assign me the task of upgrading the bot with a deadline of next week

bear: +1, no reason for the bot to be online

WARNING! setMessageHandler(...) method is obsolette, use registerHandler('message',...) instead. WARNING! setPresenceHandler(...) method is obsolette, use registerHandler('presence',...) instead. WARNING! setIqHandler(...) method is obsolette, use registerHandler('iq',...) instead. Attempting to log in... Thu Jan 24 22:02:33 2013 - SENT: - <iq type='get' id='auth-get'><query xmlns = 'jabber:iq:auth' ><username>memberbot</username></query></iq> DEBUG: sent <iq type='get' id='auth-get'><query xmlns = 'jabber:iq:auth' ><username>memberbot</username></query></iq> DEBUG: waiting with timeout:300 for auth-get DEBUG: got data <iq id='auth-get' type='error'><error type='cancel'><service-unavailable xmlns='urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:xmpp-stanzas'/></error></iq> Thu Jan 24 22:02:33 2013 - RECV: - <iq id='auth-get' type='error'><error type='cancel'><service-unavailable xmlns='urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:xmpp-stanzas'/></error></iq> DEBUG: DEPTH -> 2 , tag -> jabber:client iq, attrs -> {u'type': u'error', u'id': u'auth-get'} DEBUG: DEPTH -> 3 , tag -> jabber:client error, attrs -> {u'type': u'cancel'} DEBUG: DEPTH -> 4 , tag -> urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:xmpp-stanzas service-unavailable, attrs -> {} DEBUG: DEPTH -> 4 DEBUG: DEPTH -> 3 DEBUG: DEPTH -> 2 DEBUG: Got iq stanza DEBUG: dispatch called for: name->iq ns-> DEBUG: auth-get node arrived! Traceback (most recent call last): File "./memberbot.py", line 648, in <module> if con.auth(Username,Password,Resource): File "/var/xsf/voting/jabber.py", line 522, in auth if auth_ret_query.getTag('token'): AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'getTag'

then someone point me to the old source and i'll port over the member parts

bear: i already have one in the works

Alex: we can enable it if needed (I think Prosody supports that, but I'd need to check)

Lance / bear: sounds like some Python hacking is in order :)

i'll throw it up on github later tonight

lance: I recall you saying that - so that means it will be a fast port :)

heh

bear: I thought you had already headed into town an hour or two ago...

k, running to Code For America data hack event

yea, well, I can never do anything on time - it's just how I am :/

bear: code away! ;-)

Alex do you have a shareable copy of the jabberpy version of the bot? It looks like the old version I have is different

and I want to make sure file inputs/outputs are the same

Lance: I can send you the current version we run by email

Alex thanks! lancestout@gmail.com

sent

Jef: I wrote up some experiments with the xml in FIS: https://gist.github.com/4629838

cool, I'll check them right away

don't go anywhere

Lance, yes, this makes sense

and it looks prettier

the node attribute, does it have to be the full path? or the relative name?

in those examples, full path