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XSF Discussion | Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/ | Agenda https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings

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[15:42:42] <bear> ugh, I so want to make a note/comment about folks needing to remember to be polite in responding to others... but i can't find the words to say it without sounding like someone's mother wagging her finger
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[16:01:47] <stpeter> bear: what's the context? one of the XSF lists?
[16:16:27] <bear> yes, the operators - I just got a bit twitchy reading some of the responses to the gtalk posting
[16:17:31] <bear> my thought when reading was "hey now, at least they are talking to us and responding, we should be civil in response" but that sounded preachy
[16:19:48] <Kev> I read it, I decided you can't moderate The Internet, and moved on.
[16:20:08] <bear> ha - yea, well, I haven't reached that level of zen yet
[16:20:15] <Kev> But it /is/ our list, so maybe I should have cared.
[16:21:01] <bear> the only reason it raised a concern for me was that it's the operators list and I feel that is like our customer support forum
[16:24:35] <Kev> But, you know, the other side to this is that if Google have suddenly started blocking federation...that's not good and trying to prevent people being irritated by it is going to be hard work.
[16:26:02] <bear> I do agree with the message being given by them, just would have liked it to be less contentiously delivered
[16:26:16] <bear> hell, maybe I am becoming all wishy-washy
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[16:38:31] <stpeter> bear: :)
[16:42:39] <ralphm> maybe people are fed up with xmpp googlisms, but yeah, politeness goes a long way
[16:42:49] <ralphm> Per seems to handle it quite nicely so far
[16:43:45] <bear> part of why I said something first here :)
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[16:59:10] <ralphm> what you /can/, though, is send him a personal message. Not to appologise, but to thank him for participating. We'd love more of that.
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[17:31:55] <Kev> Yes, that seems smart Ralph.
[18:13:59] <bear> send Per a message?
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[18:15:39] <Kev> Yeah.
[18:16:04] <bear> k
[18:16:22] <Kev> You could also offer to help if they can better describe the issues they're facing.
[18:16:35] <bear> yep
[18:16:41] <Kev> That someone might have a preferable solution to blanket bombing S2S.
[18:17:14] <Kev> Hoorah for mixed metaphors :D
[18:17:20] *bear laughs
[18:17:36] <Kev> I don't know why, I take some perverse pleasure in doing that.
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[18:22:37] <bear> k, email sent direct to Per thanking him for posting and offering to help coordinate any resource wrangling that may be needed for any federation issue/problem/work
[18:24:23] <Kev> Thanks.
[18:24:31] <Kev> "Bear, the gentler side of the XSF"
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[18:24:51] <bear> if it helps, I will be the public facing teddy bear
[18:25:44] <ralphm> awesome
[18:26:02] <Kev> No, not awesome. I do not want to see Bear in a teddy.
[18:27:45] *bear adjusts his packing list for the next summit
[18:27:56] <Kev> To add the mind bleach?
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[18:28:43] <bear> that and an extra large towel to mop up the mess
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[23:06:24] <bear> peter - FYI and all that - i'm also class 2 certified at StartSSL if that helps in any way
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[23:11:20] <stpeter> bear: cool, we can start a WoT for jabberites :-)
[23:11:29] <stpeter> I used to be Class 3 verified
[23:11:47] <bear> I went and did the class 2 so I could get a "proper" wildcard cert
[23:11:53] *stpeter nods
[23:12:07] <stpeter> maybe I'll send such messages to members@ in the future :-)
[23:12:08] <bear> talked to a nice israeli lady during the confirmation :)
[23:12:14] <stpeter> heh
[23:12:30] <Lance> I'm going to upgrade to class 2 soon as well. My existing certs are about to expire
[23:12:42] <bear> hmm, bring up the conversation levels on members@ with more techy talk?
[23:12:49] <stpeter> bear: sure :-)
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[23:23:26] <bear> tomorrow I need to figure out where the git repo lives on the server and see if I can get access to it
[23:23:43] <bear> I want to start storing the articles in it so others can help clean them up
[23:27:06] *stpeter nods
[23:27:11] <stpeter> it's on athena
[23:27:16] <stpeter> I can track it down for you
[23:27:20] <stpeter> but right now I need to run
[23:27:21] <stpeter> bbl
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