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XSF Discussion | Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/ | Agenda https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings

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[19:04:20] <Alex> hey guys
[19:04:28] <Alex> 3 minutes then we start
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[19:05:29] <MiGri> \o/
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[19:08:22] <stpeter> did I not add the meeting to the calendar???? :(
[19:09:38] <Alex> you did, I see it
[19:10:12] <stpeter> ah ok
[19:10:13] <Alex> ok, lets start
[19:10:17] <stpeter> +1
[19:10:17] *Alex bangs the gavel
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[19:10:43] <Alex> here is our agenda for today:
http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/meeting-minutes/xsf-member-meeting-2013-05-02/
[19:10:54] <Alex> 1) Call for Quorum
[19:11:18] <Alex> as you can see 35 members voted via our new great bot (thanks Lance)
[19:11:23] <stpeter> yay!
[19:11:25] <Alex> so we have a quorum already
[19:11:42] <Alex> 2) Items Subject to a Vote
[19:11:48] <Alex> New and Returning membersVote yes or no for the Q1 2013
[19:12:06] <Alex> you can see all applicants here:
http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Membership_Applications_Q1_2013
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[19:12:18] <Alex> 3) Opportunity for XSF Members to Vote in the Meeting
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[19:12:30] <Alex> anybody here who has not voted yet?
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[19:13:03] <stpeter> not that I can see
[19:13:19] <Alex> ok, then I work on the results
[19:13:38] <stpeter> excellent
[19:13:56] <Alex> 4) Announcement of Voting Results
[19:14:13] <Alex> when you reload teh page you can see the results:
http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/meeting-minutes/xsf-member-meeting-2013-05-02/
[19:14:34] <Alex> all Reappliers and Applicants were accepted
[19:14:56] <Alex> 5) Any Other Business?
[19:15:03] <stpeter> I don't have any other business at this time
[19:15:15] <Lance> just be sure to update the roster list for the bot with the new people
[19:15:23] <stpeter> true
[19:15:36] <Alex> yes, I will do this tomorrow morning, and add then to teh mailing lists
[19:15:59] <Alex> or tonight when I find some minutes ;-)
[19:16:00] <stpeter> Alex: you have the admin password for mailto:members@xmpp.org, right?
[19:16:42] <Alex> I think so, you sent me new one when you changed it
[19:16:51] <stpeter> ok
[19:16:59] <stpeter> let me know if you don't have it
[19:17:28] <Alex> ya, lets me in ;-)
[19:17:32] <stpeter> yay :)
[19:18:16] <Alex> but it looks like they are all working right now to solve this password stuff, Google and the other big once
[19:18:30] <stpeter> :)
[19:18:31] <Alex> 6) Formal Adjournment
[19:18:42] <Alex> I motion that we adjourn
[19:18:52] *Lance seconds
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[19:19:29] <stpeter> many thanks to Alex and Lance!
[19:19:34] <Alex> Lancem the new bot is awesome
[19:19:38] <stpeter> I need to look at the shiny new Python code
[19:19:43] <Alex> I have to learn more python
[19:19:43] <Lance> is everyone able to use it now?
[19:19:46] <stpeter> what's the repo?
[19:19:55] <Lance> stpeter: github.com/legastero/memberbot
[19:20:02] <stpeter> phone call, brb
[19:20:37] <Alex> yes, people that had problems were not subscribed correctly
[19:21:22] <Alex> ans s2s was down sometimes between jabber.org and xmpp.org
[19:21:32] <Alex> so nothing related to the bot code
[19:21:42] <Lance> ok, good
[19:21:54] <Lance> next hurdle will be the council elections :)
[19:22:49] <Alex> ya ;-)
[19:23:17] <Alex> I can run a test for this then we are prepared
[19:23:35] <stpeter> yes they are more complicated
[19:23:44] <Lance> the code is already there to ask the questions, I just need to make it output the right data files you need
[19:23:45] <stpeter> thus all my old spaghetti code
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[19:25:46] <Alex> back later
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[19:25:56] <stpeter> thanks as always, Alex!
[19:26:21] <stpeter> Lance: BTW, I got set up as a StartSSL notary yesterday
[19:26:27] <Lance> sweet!
[19:26:37] <Lance> i have class 2 now, I just need to take their test thing
[19:26:40] <stpeter> trying to convince Matt Miller to do so as well
[19:27:39] <stpeter> I took the test 5 times before passing, but I didn't look at the notary materials first (I actually reviewed them years ago but forgot some of the details)
[19:28:25] <stpeter> I kept getting 9 out of 10 :-)
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[19:47:50] <Kev> What does having class 2 mean?
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[19:48:12] <Lance> Kev: that you've had additional identity verification done
[19:48:21] <Kev> Sorry, poorly worded.
[19:48:25] <Lance> not just proof of email ownership
[19:48:28] <Kev> What does being class 2 gain you.
[19:48:46] <Lance> you can have certs with wildcards
[19:48:53] <Kev> Ah.
[19:49:00] <Kev> But those are evil and no-one wants them, right? :)
[19:49:07] <Lance> i think the cert also includes your name in it too
[19:49:08] <stpeter> brb
[19:50:04] <Kev> Lance: Do you want to give feedback on the LC?
[19:50:10] <Lance> which LC?
[19:50:32] <Lance> 308?
[19:50:51] <Kev> No, I'm having a mental block on the number.
[19:51:07] <Kev> 152?
[19:51:28] <Kev> Yes, 152 looks right.
[19:51:44] <Lance> oh, I forgot that was in lc
[19:52:13] <Lance> my feedback is that it has been useful. we've used it
[19:52:44] <Kev> Could you reply to the LC mail on list please?
[19:52:54] <Lance> will do
[19:52:56] <Kev> Ta.
[19:53:07] <Kev> (The mail was some weeks ago)
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[20:05:50] <Lance> Kev: done
[20:05:54] <Lance> consider me chased down
[20:05:59] <Kev> Ta muchly.
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[20:15:48] <stpeter> I've been asking a bunch of "CUSAX" people whether they use or will use the reachability extension, so I might have some input to share soon
[20:19:05] <Lance> it was very useful when sip ids or numbers are dynamic
[20:19:18] <Lance> and short lived
[20:19:29] *stpeter nods
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[20:31:09] <stpeter> it's especially handy for proximity use cases (walk into a conference room and discover the phone number of video endpoint address via bluetooth or infrared)
[20:31:23] <stpeter> s/of/or/
[20:31:26] <Lance> MEP!
[20:31:33] <Kev> stpeter: How does that work?
[20:31:45] <Kev> You still need to know what the XMPP identity of 'the room' is don't you?
[20:32:02] <Kev> Or do you do it over link-local or such?
[20:32:03] <Lance> Kev: link local?
[20:33:01] <stpeter> Kev: two scenarios, one link-local and the other is that the conference room is also a MUC room or has a JID -- but you can pair up with the room / device using bluetooth or whatever, too
[20:33:42] <Kev> Seems reasonable.
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