XSF Discussion - 2013-11-07


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  97. fippo tobias: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/IETF-Streit-um-sicheres-HTTP-2-0-neu-entbrannt-2041890.html -- we really need to explain monika to let us review her articles before publication
  98. fippo the jabber community is only holding up the "opportunistic tls" flag, not the "tls" flag
  99. Tobias reads
  100. Tobias For service deployments: o require the use of TLS for both client-to-server and server-to-server connections
  101. Tobias maybe she misinterpreted that as strong authenticated TLS connections via trusted certs
  102. fippo i suppose "use of TLS" isn't really well defined
  103. Kev Well, it is in 6120
  104. Tobias does it imply which CAs are in your TA?
  105. Tobias or define those
  106. Tobias that's out of scope i think
  107. fippo well, 6120 says that one must check certificates
  108. fippo and opportunistic violates that because it (partially) ignores the results of the certificate check
  109. Tobias does it define what check certificate means?
  110. fippo http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6120#section-13.7.2.1 does that
  111. MattJ Observation: the XSF blog announced the start of voting, but not the close and results, and nothing about the summit either...
  112. fippo "board, get busy"? :-)
  113. MattJ Just an observation, I said :)
  114. fippo we could ask peter for notes :-))))
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  116. Tobias yeah..let's put more load on his todo
  117. fippo mattj: +1, currently we lack a warning sign "don't shoot yourself in the foot"
  118. bear *sigh* I knew there was something I forgot to do
  119. bear goes to draft the voting results post
  120. MattJ Sorry bear :)
  121. MattJ You need more minions
  122. bear plenty of minions, just need focus
  123. bear so getting reminded that things need to be done is helpful (well, for me that is)
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  126. MattJ fippo, I'm considering a mod_nothing_to_hide that echoes all your messages to a public MUC, pubsub or MAM archive
  127. fippo bear: can you draft one of your andyet minions to adulate lance @ http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/xmpp-council/ :-)
  128. bear fippo - sure can
  129. fippo whoever baptized me "Hornsby Cornflower" can surely do that
  130. bear :)
  131. MattJ :P
  132. fippo mattj: after you've reviewed mod_turncredentials that sounds like a good idea :-)
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  136. MattJ fippo, ah yes :)
  137. fippo on the matter of board activity, we actually have (german) press writing about the manifesto before the xsf has a press relase
  138. fippo otoh, it's not an xsf activity
  139. fippo technically.
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  141. Lance i'd love for the XSF to have and publish opinions on things affecting the XMPP network / community though. It's rather expected of us by other communities
  142. Lance tries to draft a short bio while waiting to board for vancouver
  143. fippo ah, you're not there the whole week?
  144. Lance no, just friday
  145. bear I have created a quick manifesto post
  146. bear fippo ^^
  147. fippo bear: ^5
  148. fippo https://www.loomio.org/discussions/3678?page=5 <-- if anyone wants to tell the diaspora people about xmpp (and webrtc)...
  149. MattJ You already did a good job :)
  150. bear yea, was reading to get context and see that fippo is already involved - nice work sir!
  151. fippo at some point i'll have to find a way to abandon strophe and use stanza.io
  152. Lance heh. you'll never be rid of strophe.jingle though :p
  153. fippo http://vancouver.conf.meetecho.com/WebLite/event.jsp?w=rtcweb btw
  154. fippo vp8 vs h.264
  155. Lance i just need to review what's needed for pranswer in jingle.js first..
  156. Lance who's winning?
  157. fippo lance: i'll see about refactoring my stuff and adding it to jingle.js
  158. fippo i need to update it for dtls support anyway
  159. bear they are working thru the h.264 fud and also wondering why google doesn't do what cisco just did
  160. fippo not sure, they haven't unpacked the vuvuzelas, kazoos and trumpets yet
  161. Lance gah! i should have brought kazoos
  162. fippo my position on that is clearly "i don't care about the video codec..."
  163. fippo i'm just wondering how to get adobe to implement VP8 so i can sell an old rtmfp server for lots of money (-:
  164. Lance haha
  165. bear "lets stop picking nits and arguing about points on the slide"... <-- must be new to IETF
  166. fippo "google's codec and the standard codec"
  167. fippo ted is great
  168. bear "I offered him a hug" :)
  169. Lance fippo: what was left to implement in jitsi's video bridge?
  170. fippo lance: i just started to work on it this week. on the bridge side it's not yet capable of ice yet (supposed to land this week)
  171. fippo on the client side i don't understand how it's supposed to be used. but emil will explain that to me tomorrow hopefully
  172. fippo after that it's hunting down issues
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