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XSF Discussion | Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/ | Agenda https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings

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[04:49:46] <fippo> the problem about google is not adding a gmail exception
[04:50:03] <fippo> it's having to add a hosted-on-google-apps exception
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[05:03:50] <fippo> so that would be an exception for anything whose srv records points to xmpp-server.l.google.com. or any of it's 1.l, 2.l, 3.l or 4.l cousins
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[08:14:58] <ralphm> fippo: indeed
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[15:19:52] <Lloyd> How people see XMPP when they look at the server list on the xmpp.org site: https://twitter.com/bobpoekert/status/403302786747486209
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[15:32:52] <Kev> If having implementations in many languages is 'crusty', it's not clear to me that crusty is a bad thing.
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[15:33:58] <Kev> The list of dead servers is another matter.
[15:34:03] <Lloyd> Have you read the replies? A comment that came up in Portland, many in the list aren't actively developed..
[15:34:09] <Lloyd> …what you just said :)
[15:34:54] <Kev> A policy of "Need to rerequest to be added each year" might cause some of the abandoned things to drop off.
[15:38:21] <Lloyd> Was just thinking about that. Problem is that it increases admin effort (albeit a small amount) and do we prod projects or do they have to come to us? (I know my answer there).
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[16:26:27] <MattJ> Date of last release as a column? Automate it somehow?
[16:26:33] *MattJ thinks aloud
[16:29:02] <Kev> MattJ: I'm not sure 'date of last release' is as good a metric as 'authors are prepared to relist'.
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[16:29:56] <MattJ> Last release >1y, project is not active?
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[16:31:50] <Kev> I don't think that's true.
[16:32:41] <Kev> Or, at least "Getting new stuff added" isn't terribly important, "authors are still looking after it" is.
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[16:36:37] <Lloyd> agreed. If there's someone willing to put the effort in to get their server relisted you can be fairly sure the project is active.
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[21:20:36] *** dwd shows as "away" and his status message is " (Away as a result of being idle more than 5 min)"
[21:24:18] *** Simon shows as "online"
[21:29:21] *** Simon shows as "online"
[21:30:35] *** dwd shows as "xa" and his status message is " (Not available as a result of being idle more than 15 min)"
[21:34:03] *** Lance shows as "away"
[21:34:23] *** Simon shows as "online"
[21:34:40] *** Lance shows as "online"
[21:39:26] *** Simon shows as "online"
[21:44:29] *** Simon shows as "online"
[21:48:50] *** Alex shows as "online"
[21:49:32] *** Simon shows as "online"
[21:54:35] *** Simon shows as "online"
[21:55:52] *** SouL shows as "away" and his status message is "Dormint Zzz...
Durmiendo Zzz...
Sleeping Zzz..."

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[22:10:14] *** intosi shows as "away" and his status message is "Away"
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[22:35:53] *** Lance shows as "online"
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[22:53:27] *** intosi shows as "online"
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[22:56:15] *** intosi shows as "online"
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[22:58:19] *** intosi shows as "online"
[22:58:31] *** intosi shows as "away" and his status message is "Away"
[23:01:25] *** dwd shows as "xa" and his status message is " (Not available as a result of being idle more than 15 min)"
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[23:54:01] *** stpeter shows as "away" and his status message is "wandered off..."