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dwd
MattJ, I'm being stalked.
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intosi
Is this a complaint, or a thank you / look, /I/ have a stalker?
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dwd
intosi, The latter framed as the former.
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intosi
That Future of XMPP Re: The Google Issue thread is really going wild.
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fippo
it seems I wrote the "open source disaster jingle javascript library" according to google translate
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fippo
i think it got "strophe" in "open source strophe jingle javascript library" wrong when translating from german (kata-strophe => disaster)
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dwd
Well, anything involving SDP...
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stpeter
DFTT
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Zash
Dat Fine Talk Transport?
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Zash
Oh
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fippo
http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/4/5173726/you-have-too-many-chat-apps-can-layer-connect-them -- stpeter, Jer joined them?
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fippo
cool
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stpeter
fippo: yes
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stpeter
temas, too :-)
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fippo
old jabberites (-:
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stpeter
yep
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fippo
"One big problem was that Jabber wasn.t designed to keep up with devices popping in and out of connectivity"
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MattJ
198
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dwd
Well, not originally.
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fippo
without checking i think the article was written by the same person that wrote...
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Zash
...
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fippo
stpeter: I am looking forward to Jers explanation of how Jabber failed :-p
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fippo
maybe you can remind him to consider masinters "If you're going to do a standard for Instant Messaging (even 1-1 messaging), ignoring the requirements imposed by the possibility of group communication would likely lead you to a protocol that doesn't satisfy anyone's actual requirements.
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fippo
this time ;-)
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stpeter
well, it would not surprise me that somehow what Jer said was lost in translation ... journalists ...
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fippo
as usual (-:
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stpeter
it's always a great day when you receive communications from both the IRS and the FBI ;-)
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fippo
horay
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Alex
hey guys
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MattJ
Hey Alex
- bear waves
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Kev
Hi Alex.
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Alex
I'll start our meeting in 2 minuutes
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fippo
oh, we have a meeting?
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Alex
ya, I think its not in teh calendar
- Alex bangs the gavel
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Alex
here is our agenda for today: http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/meeting-minutes/xsf-member-meeting-2013-12-05
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Alex
1) Call for Quorum
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Alex
as you can see 31 members voted via proxy, so we have a quorum already
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Alex
2) Items Subject to a Vote
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Alex
new and returning members, you can see all applicants here: http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Membership_Applications_Q3_2013
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Alex
3) Opportunity for XSF Members to Vote in the Meeting
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Alex
anybody here who has not voted yet?
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waqas
I'm not sure if I haven't or have
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Alex
waqas: don't see you jid on the agenda
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Alex
memberbot is still online, so you can vote now
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waqas
Done
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Alex
have your votes, anybody else?
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Zash
.
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Alex
ok, then I shutdown the bot and start counting
- waqas waits patiently to learn whether we managed to vote Florian in again
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MattJ
Who is Florian? :)
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dwd
waqas, We could also have fun, and vote on all sorts of AOB items.
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waqas
I vote Yes
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MattJ
What's the best kind of pizza?
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Kev
A vote for Waqas is a vote for fun?
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Kev
MattJ: Meat, obviously.
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Zash
Kev: Seconded
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MattJ
Do I get veto rights?
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Zash
No
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dwd
I also vote for meat.
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MattJ
dwd, bacon pizza?
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Alex
4) Announcement of Voting Results
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dwd
But that said, we must formally propose the motion, first.
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Alex
if you reload the page at: http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/meeting-minutes/xsf-member-meeting-2013-12-05/ you can see the results
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MattJ
Nobody reads membership applications, it's official :)
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Alex
all new and returning members are accepted
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Alex
congrats to everybody
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dwd
MattJ, Indeed.
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Alex
5) Any Other Business?
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dwd
Alex, Matt wanted us to vote on the best kind of pizza.
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Alex
ok, then do so ;-)
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Alex
is there a way to get a better calendar?
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dwd
Alex, Hey, we've a quorate meeting, we can vote on pretty much anything.
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Alex
so that more people can edit it?
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MattJ
That would be good
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MattJ
XMPP-based, of course
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dwd
Alex, Editing isn't the problem, actually, it's in git. The problem is generating the new one.
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dwd
I proose we ask the calendaring expert who just joined us as a member.
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Kev
dwd: Well, kinda. Editing is still less convenient than google cal, or whatever.
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Alex
ya, I mean something usable for a windows dummy like me ;-)
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Alex
not git checkout edit compile, checking crypt whatever
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dwd
Alex, I'll raise this at Board if you like.
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Alex
ok
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Alex
we can wrote a prosody bot ;-)
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bear
+1 to solving the group calendar question
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bear
I like the bot idea
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Kev
I'll be unfashionable and say I'd actually be fine with just a google calendar.
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Alex
I am absolutly fine with that as well
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dwd
Kev, Yeah, and we used to have that, but the whole silo thing, you know.
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bear
google calendar with multiple editors only works with GApps
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bear
(only works well and cleanly)
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Kev
bear: Are you sure? I'm using a non-gapps calendar that I don't own but can edit.
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Kev
Multiple, in fact.
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Alex
I use shared calandar with my family and hobby club without problems, multiple editors
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bear
then my info is old and crusty - kinda like me today
- bear goes back to his cave
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Alex
also free gmail accounts here
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Kev
If that's the case...perhaps a shower? :D
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dwd
Kev, We can vote on that if you like.
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bear
hehe - yea, that may actually be a great idea
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Alex
board will figure this out, anything else?
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dwd
Alex, I'd like to propose the motion that more people show up to these meetings.
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dwd
Anyone care to second? It'll give Alex something to add to his minutes.
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bear
second!
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Alex
seconds
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Alex
how can we achieve this?
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Alex
send out more emails?
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Alex
have a better cal?
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Alex
send an invite over memberbot?
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dwd
Alex, I'm not sure, actually. But better calendar, a bot that tells people - anything might help.
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dwd
Also formally voting on it and including it in the minutes might kick a few people into coming along, and voting too.
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bear
getting a bot written for day-to-day stuff sounds like a good solution
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ralphm
:-D
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MattJ
I'd say I'd do it, but I know I wouldn't
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MattJ
As much as I'd love to
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MattJ
So...
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MattJ
Lance!
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bear
lance!
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dwd
We could vote him to do it while he's not looking. Nobody can resist an XSF member's vote. ;-)
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ralphm
By the way, +1 for Pepperoni.
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Alex
ok, +1 from me
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ralphm
Alex: great!
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Alex
for both, Lance and the Pizza
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bear
:)
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Alex
ok, thats it?
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dwd
Yeah, OK, so "more people should show up", "Lance will do stuff with the bot", and "as much meat as possible".
- bear nods as officially as he can
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dwd
Alex, Unless we can think of anything else silly to vote on.
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Alex
lets adjourn before you guys get crazy here ;-)
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Alex
6) Formal Adjournment
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Alex
I motion that we adjourn
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ralphm
+1
- Alex bangs the gavel
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Alex
thanks guys
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bear
thanks Alex!
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Kev
Thanks Alex.
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Kev
And thanks for those who turned up.
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Kev
s/for/to/
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Alex
add our new girls to the list and remove the members who have not reapplied
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fippo
dwd: hrmpf, I was having a colibri session with emil and everyone could have joined (-:
- Lance returns from lunch
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MattJ
I wouldn't do that if I were you
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Lance
if someone gives me requirements for bot stuff, i'll be happy to do it
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dwd
Lance, It seemed to be "voting and meeting reminders".
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dwd
Alex failed to minute the pizza discussion. :-(
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Kev
Shocking.
- intosi returns from a Westvleteren 12
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intosi
+1 on the pepperoni, even though voting on that doesn't make any sense (meeting adjourned and such)
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MattJ
Yeah, it made perfect sense two hours ago :)
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Kev
It makes about as much sense as...
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Kev
Right, Matt beat me to it.
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intosi
So, XSF dinner will be pizza instead of the place in Sint-Jezuseik?
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Lance
xmppizza