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XSF Discussion | Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/ | Agenda https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings

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[09:39:57] <dwd> I wonder if the Debian thing might convince MattJ to come to FOSDEM after all?
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[09:41:51] <Simon> He isn't?
[09:42:03] <dwd> He's not. Worse, neither is his dad.
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[09:42:20] <dwd> Zash, You can represent Prosody to an extent as well, can't you?
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[09:44:26] <Zash> I am no MattJ, nor does it seem like I'll be at FOSDEM.
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[10:11:31] <dwd> Zash, Do you have TLSA records on your domain?
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[10:11:51] <Zash> I do
[10:12:12] <Zash> For XMPP and HTTP
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[10:12:30] <Zash> and SMTP
[10:12:32] <dwd> Ooooh. So you do.
[10:13:35] <Zash> dwd: This might be of use :) https://xmpp.net/reports.php#dnssecdane
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[10:15:29] <dwd> So you've a service certificate constraint, full cert, SHA-256 match.
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[10:17:41] <Zash> _tcp._5269 = TLSA(1, 0, 1, "zash.se.crt");
[10:17:57] <Zash> Hm, I should add support for those acronyms to that
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[10:51:47] <Zash> _5269 = TLSA("PKIX-EE", "Cert", "SHA2-256", "zash.se.crt");
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[14:26:35] <dwd> So as a DNSSEC thing the XSF could do, is work with Domicilium to get .im signed.
[14:27:40] <dwd> I suspect that'd remove DNSSEC/DANE barriers from quite a few servers, but I think we'd need to poke about inside the xmpp.net database to truly find out how many security concious servers might eb affected.
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[16:29:59] <Simon> dwd: sounds like a good idea. Hopefully it can just be a letter drafted up with Peter's signature "Psst there's a lot of people not using .im fully because of … "
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[17:51:28] <Zash> hey emcho
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[20:36:36] <dwd> Expedia suggests I might like to fly to Brussels using CWL->AMS->BOD->NTE->BRU. 22 hours, including a 8:45 layover in Bordeaux.
[20:37:12] <dwd> Simon, I think we need more than just contact - both Peter and I have tried.
[20:37:27] <MattJ> Cake?
[20:37:29] <dwd> Simon, I'll give them a call tomorrow.
[20:37:36] <dwd> MattJ, The cake is a lie, though.
[20:37:42] <fippo> dwd: expedia doesn't use ITA? :-)
[20:37:52] <Simon> Send flowers and cupcakes?
[20:37:55] <dwd> fippo, :-)
[20:38:01] <dwd> Simon, Take them out to dinner, maybe.
[20:38:09] <Simon> Where are Domicilium?
[20:38:13] <dwd> Isle of Man
[20:38:17] <fippo> even thour IIRC your route back from PDX was just as horrible
[20:38:20] <dwd> Hence the .im domain. :-)
[20:38:43] <dwd> fippo, That was horrible because the PDX->AMS flight landed just before the AMS->CWL flight took off.
[20:38:47] <Simon> well the registrar isn't always linked to the country the run it for…
[20:39:10] <dwd> fippo, The worst part was that I ended up running a high fever, and nearly missed the onward flight.
[20:39:25] <Simon> I can ask the famous James Body… I'm sure he has a contact inside since Truphone do a lot of work with the SMS and GSM gateways that are based in Manx.
[20:39:29] <dwd> Simon, No, true, but in this case they're IoM I think.
[20:39:40] <Simon> Pinging him now.
[20:40:06] <dwd> Simon, I can just give them a call tomorrow.
[20:40:10] <fippo> dwd: ouch!
[20:40:31] <dwd> fippo, I sat waiting at the wrong gate. QUite amusing in retrospect.
[20:41:19] <fippo> dwd: that's just schiphol. pretty close to schizo :-p
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[20:43:31] <Simon> Ping him: https://www.linkedin.com/pub/phil-adcock/7/86/436
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[20:47:11] <dwd> Righty, I'll do that tomorrow.
[20:48:12] <fippo> simon: I met James in the VUC again btw ;-)
[20:48:21] <fippo> the world turns out to be pretty small
[20:48:38] <Simon> fippo: he's a conference slut (meant in the nicest possible way) and a great guy.
[20:48:54] <Simon> Master of networking. And know his bits.
[20:48:55] <dwd> Has anyone got Thijs in their roster? I could do with knowing the number and proportion of .im domains in the Observatory's database. That'd indicate the numbers of security-concious XMPP servers we're looking at.
[20:49:20] <Simon> dwd- have you checked the stats page?
[20:49:32] <Simon> There's a few details there that could help you build a case.
[20:49:51] <dwd> Yes; the .im figures are the missing ones.
[20:49:57] <fippo> dwd: go to the prosody chat room
[20:50:28] <fippo> after all, you're one of the few celebrities not hanging out there ;-)
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[20:51:58] <Simon> Nice answer from him :)
[20:52:17] <dwd> fippo, I'm even a Prosody user.
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I'm not here.
私はここにいない"

[22:29:36] <intosi> Debian wants to run dual stack IPv4/IPv6, there's the reason why they need to run Prosody 0.9 or up.
[22:32:36] <Zash> Hmm, is IPv6-capable LuaSocket in Debian yet?
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