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XSF Discussion | Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/ | Agenda https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings

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[08:14:51] *ralphm notes that we should have these discussions in jdev rather than here
[08:15:12] <ralphm> or at least some of them
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[08:16:00] <ralphm> xnyhps (Thijs) is usually there, too
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[11:32:39] <Steffen Larsen> Hi, does anybody know if all have booked hotel rooms for FOSDEM/summit?
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[11:33:10] <Steffen Larsen> because one of my friends might need a room for friday/saturday/sunday
[11:33:52] <ralphm> Steffen Larsen: the only person that might know is Floran Jensen
[11:33:54] <ralphm> Florian
[11:34:55] <Steffen Larsen> heh yes
[11:35:01] <Steffen Larsen> but he's never online anymore
[11:35:11] <Steffen Larsen> too busy with über I believe
[11:35:13] <Steffen Larsen> ;-)
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[12:05:17] <simon> Florian works at über?
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[12:08:39] <dwd> He's a taxi driver now.
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[12:09:48] <Steffen Larsen> :-)
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[13:00:34] <intosi> Will just tried to book a room, and couldn't get one using the link. Would that mean we filled all rooms in the block?
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[13:09:59] <Steffen Larsen> hmmm we had a problem for a week ago where we couldn't book at all.. even though the rooms were there. It was a problem with the hotel booking site. Maybe its the same now.
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[13:11:52] <simon> Steffen - I had a similar problem last year. Ended up phoning the hotel directly and got a better rate (even less than the block booking rate).
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[13:14:51] <Steffen Larsen> simon: he he
[13:15:07] <Steffen Larsen> simon: yes..the hotel was not cheap at all
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[13:19:24] <ralphm> simon: are you sure it was the same type of room? Including breakfast? Same cancellation policy?
[13:20:37] <intosi> Looks like the standard rooms are sold out on booking.com.
[13:21:02] <dwd> I can't remember how long the block deal was for, but I thought we had it longer than this.
[13:22:00] <simon> ralphm: no breakfast. Perhaps that accounts for the difference. Does the block booking include breakfast?
[13:22:10] <dwd> Yes.
[13:22:21] <simon> Excellent. I'll be maxing out on that.
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[13:22:27] <dwd> Well.
[13:22:39] <dwd> It's the five-items-or-less breakfast, isn't it.
[13:23:10] <simon> Sold out? Does MattJ's fan club know he might not be coming?
[13:23:27] <dwd> He originally wasn't. He may be now.
[13:23:40] <simon> Well that explains it ;)
[13:24:13] <intosi> dwd: breakfast is about the only thing I don't like about the hotel.
[13:24:48] <ralphm> dwd: maybe we should order bacon every morning
[13:25:23] <Lloyd> 5 portions of bacon, yum
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[13:25:51] <dwd> It's vaguely tempting to see if there's a café that can do a decent breakfast nearby.
[13:26:15] <intosi> I'll have the bacon covered in bacon with bacon on the side, and add another bacon on bacon to finish it.
[13:26:43] <intosi> Also, why is my left arm feeling numb?
[13:27:00] <dwd> So you can pretend it's someone else's?
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[13:30:37] <simon> Looks like there is a bakery right around the corner PAUL BRUXELLES BELL'ART
Rue Froissart 72
1040 Etterbeek
Belgium
[13:31:03] <simon> bread from there. bacon from A-loft.
[13:32:39] <ralphm> simon: there is no bacon at Aloft. That's the whole problem.
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[13:32:48] <ralphm> They have the other stuff
[13:37:24] <simon> Shall I ask Rene to pack a bacon bomb? (https://secure.flickr.com/photos/simontennant/6843836070/ and https://secure.flickr.com/photos/simontennant/6989961621/lightbox/)
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[13:40:47] <fippo> http://hancke.name/jabber/bacon.jpg -- some novotel at the paris CDG airport has those things ;-)
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[16:27:28] <simon> Has anyone notices the bittorrent equivalent of XEPs? BEPs: http://www.bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0000.html
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[18:36:52] <ralphm> modelled after Python's PEPs, like ours. Makes sense
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[19:10:20] <MattJ> PEPs pre-dated JEPs?
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[19:14:12] <waqas> PEPs are relatively new
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[19:15:04] <waqas> Oh wow, apparently I'm wrong. They started back in 2000.
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[19:41:20] <ralphm> http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0001.html#nt-id122324
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[19:41:28] <ralphm> MattJ, waqas: ^
[19:41:40] <ralphm> Guess that also kinda shows how long I've been around
[19:41:59] <waqas> How does being old feel?
[19:42:56] <ralphm> waqas: come to Brussels and I'll let you experience that
[19:43:27] <waqas> Ha, I'm skipping this year sadly, but MattJ might make it, you can show him :)
[19:49:43] <ralphm> feel
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[20:46:40] <dwd> XSF Dinner booked in for the 1st Feb.
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[20:55:49] <Simon> MacDonalds again?
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[21:14:19] <dwd> Simon, You're in McDonald's. The rest of us are in l'Auberge Bréttone. ;-)
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[21:29:12] <dwd> Folks,

The now-traditional XSF Dinner has been booked at the now-traditional l'Auberge Brétonne, just outside Brussels.

As you're probably aware, the XSF solicits sponsorship for the dinner, so that we can carry on offering an excellent meal entirely free to our members. Sponsors will be thanked (and toasted) at the dinner, listed for all to see on the Summit 15 wiki page, and are welcome to attend in person even if not members. If your company is willing to sponsor, please don't hesitate to get in touch with me, or any other member of the Board.

XSF Members and their partners can, as usual, attend for free.

Don't worry about getting there - we're arranging transport from FOSDEM and back to the Aloft Hotel.

Dave.
[21:29:21] <dwd> Someone skim that before I send it?
[21:29:45] <dwd> Then I can get on and post the first sponsor on the Wiki.
[21:30:25] <fippo> ship it
[21:30:29] <dwd> bear, Simon ?
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[21:30:55] <bear> +1
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[21:31:15] <dwd> Should we announce sponsors as they come in to the summit@ list as well?
[21:32:07] <MattJ> +1
[21:32:08] <bear> I don't see why not - it may spur some others to give
[21:32:17] <MattJ> (to the text)
[21:32:39] <Steffen Larsen> wd
[21:32:47] <dwd> Oh, it's "Bretonne" not "Brétonne".
[21:32:53] <Steffen Larsen> dwd: what is the normal sponsorship?
[21:33:02] <dwd> Steffen Larsen, One MILLION Euros.
[21:33:11] <Steffen Larsen> dwd: one billion…
[21:33:24] <MattJ> Ten billion, i.e. the XSF could buy Dropbox
[21:33:37] <Steffen Larsen> but not nest
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[21:33:55] <dwd> Steffen Larsen, It varies. It's typically been proportional to the numbers of XSF members belonging to a company, but not always. There's usually a bit of a fight for the top spot.
[21:34:12] <Steffen Larsen> dwd: ok
[21:34:33] <dwd> Steffen Larsen, All the amounts are public; they're posted on the wiki, so you can look at prevoious years (like Summit_13, Summit_11, etc)
[21:34:34] <MattJ> Steffen Larsen, nope, Nest was $3.2 billion, Dropbox $10 billion
[21:34:58] <Steffen Larsen> Mattj: but they are prob. worth more now
[21:35:18] <Steffen Larsen> dwd: ok. I might give a dime or two..
[21:35:19] <dwd> Steffen Larsen, Nest is worth less, Dropbox is harder to say.
[21:35:27] <Steffen Larsen> :-)
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[21:40:30] <dwd> Simon, What's your view on announcing sponsors to the list?
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[22:29:05] <dwd> BTW, added our first dinner sponsor to the wiki.
[22:29:20] <dwd> (Thanks, &Yet!)
[22:32:18] <ralphm> &Yet is amazing in so many ways
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[22:44:23] <ralphm> By the way, I got some practical info for our FOSDEM stand. Pretty much the same as last year.
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