XSF Discussion - 2014-03-09


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  25. Simon Someone threw up XEP 280 onto hacker news this morning https://news.ycombinator.com/
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  27. Kev I don't think your comment is entirely accurate, is it?
  28. Kev The power cost of 'holding open a socket' is 0, in isolation.
  29. Kev It's the traffic that costs you.
  30. Kev But I read your comment as generally saying "Yes, Carbons is there, but it's rubbish", which doesn't seem helpful.
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  32. Simon Kev: don't know what gave you that impression. I read it as being very much go Carbons!
  33. Kev It was the "More background: XMPP is designed around keeping a connection open to the client and pushing through updates and new messages. These assumptions worked well in a desktop environment on a solid TCP connection. But for power, intermittent network, and mobile OS design reason, holding open a socket isn't ideal." line, before pushing Push. It does mention carbons, but I'm not sure that carbons actually does what you say it does :)
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  35. Simon " are working hard to make XMPP more mobile friendly." then explaining the background.
  36. Simon of course I could have started with carbons + push + mam are pieces of the mobile puzzle.
  37. Simon My point is it's nice to see people posting XMPP related topics to HN.
  38. Kev It is.
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  41. Tobias on the latest comment there ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7367920 ): it'd probably useful to have an informational XEP how to best detect the active client among logged in resources so that a) after receiving 10 messages and sending an answer from one resource the notification on the other clients are cleared and b) you're only notified about new messages at the client you're at. both facebook and hangouts fail at that making all devices ring on a new message (sometimes heavily delayed)
  42. Kev We discussed this at the summit.
  43. Kev There's a spin-off from the Push stuff to cope with this.
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  59. Zash https://xmpp.net/reports.php#sslv3butnottls1
  60. Zash I say!
  61. ralphm Maybe those tables should show server versions.
  62. Kev It seems useful, potentially.
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  68. Kev Zash: I've just noticed that further up that page there's a list of auth mechs. Including SCREAM-SHA-1, which is offered by one server :D
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  70. Kev Is that your server? :p
  71. Zash https://xmpp.net/result.php?domain=superhorse.se&type=client
  72. Tobias no scream-plus? :(
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  81. Neustradamus if you want: https://gist.github.com/SpaHost/9417886
  82. ralphm Neustradamus: you missed the point
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  85. Kev Anyone got an idea how long the cache on a domain is in the observatory?
  86. Kev Ah. Resubmitting refreshes it, but refreshing the page doesn't. Neat.
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  103. Lance aha, a HN link. that's why my customxep repo has been getting a lot of attention today
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  105. Zash What kind of attention?
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