Monday, March 10, 2014
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XSF Discussion | Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/ | Agenda https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings

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[19:44:04] <fippo> http://disruptivewireless.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/webrtc-voip-mobile-comms-apps-bringing.html
[19:44:19] <fippo> obviously, "standards" are making it impossible to create an unique experience!
[19:44:33] <Zash> oh noeeees
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[19:45:27] <fippo> I do wonder whether he assumes that he app he is using and the app he's giving to me are the same
[19:46:15] <fippo> or if they're different and just use a ... NUNDOCUMENTED PROPRIETARY THING instead of a standard to talk with each other
[19:46:34] <fippo> because using something document would be bad, that might be called a "standard"
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[19:48:45] <Simon> Hope he never uses the [standardised] telephone for sales calls.
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[19:51:12] <stpeter> what's the "http" thing I've been hearing about?
[19:52:08] <dwd> stpeter, Some whack-job out of a Physics lab trying to do protocol design, I hear.
[19:52:18] <stpeter> sheesh
[19:52:55] <dwd> stpeter, Apparently he decided to use '822 headers for critical machine-machine data.
[19:53:27] <dwd> stpeter, Oh, except he mandates ISO-8859-1 instead of ASCII.
[19:54:42] <Zash> Dear lord, do they let anyone design protocols now?
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[19:55:55] <fippo> let's notify the protocol writers guild
[19:59:17] <ralphm> on the other hand, stpeter is a philosopher
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[20:04:37] <intosi> ralphn: that's a good background for a protocol designer ;)
[20:04:59] <stpeter> heh
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[20:09:40] <fippo> watching shadows projected to a cave wall <=> writing a protocol spec ... mh... yeah
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[20:22:47] <MattJ> :)
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