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[12:54:15] <dwd> http://unlooker.com/dubbing-benny-hill-music-rave-music-inexplicably-hilarious/0/
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[13:49:22] <fippo> m&m: morning. have you seen ben langfelds request for publication of rayo on standards@?
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[14:22:28] <m&m> I did, and I need to respond, because I'm not sure I still have those patches /-:
[14:24:24] <m&m> oh, he sent hints of where his patches are actually located
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[15:01:00] <fippo> thanks m&m ;-)
[15:15:45] <Tobias> any xslt pro here? :) need to have an incrementing counter in an xsl:template
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[15:22:04] <intosi> Tobias: position() isn't good enough?
[15:24:52] <Tobias> position somehow always gives the same number
[15:25:19] <Tobias> for the first <img> tag being matched i want 0, for the next 1 and so on
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[15:25:22] <Tobias> or starting at 1
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[15:25:50] <intosi> The main problem is that "variables" are in fact constants. The usual way of fixing it is either using recursion, or walk over the elements with an xsl:for-each
[15:26:08] <intosi> position should work for the latter.
[15:27:58] <Tobias> the for each would be without a <xsl:template>, right?
[15:28:22] <m&m> the for-each can call a template
[15:29:37] <Tobias> <xsl:for-each select="img">
<cmd name="includegraphics"><xsl:value-of select="position()" /></cmd>
</xsl:for-each>
[15:30:09] <Tobias> so this would replace all <img/> with a <cmd name...>0...n</cmd>?
[15:31:28] <m&m> I think so, but it's been a long while since I've done XSLT, but that feels right
[15:33:09] <intosi> Sorry, wandered off. That should work. My XSLT is a bit rusty as well, though.
[15:34:13] <Tobias> element for-each only allowed within a template, variable or param
compilation error: file xep2texml.xsl line 408 element value-of
element value-of only allowed within a template, variable or param
compilation error: file xep2texml.xsl line 407 element for-each
xsltParseStylesheetTop: unknown for-each element
[15:34:40] <Tobias> probably that's more for when you want to put all <img>s at one place
[15:34:51] <Tobias> but i basically want to replace the tag in place
[15:38:40] <intosi> But those <img/>s must have a parent element.
[15:38:45] <intosi> Just run a template on that element.
[15:39:41] <Tobias> usually in a <p>
[15:39:43] <Tobias> yes
[15:40:08] <Tobias> however i need that counter being global
[15:40:18] <m&m> you could also select the count of <img/> elements that precede the current one
[15:40:19] <intosi> Sure.
[15:40:36] <Tobias> m&m, that sounds useful, how?
[15:40:59] <Tobias> it would essentially be counter i'm looking for
[15:41:03] <m&m> IIRC, count is a function, and preceding:<path> is the selector within the count()
[15:41:33] <m&m> but it's been a long time
[15:41:39] <Tobias> thx
[15:41:56] *m&m grumbles about authors not updating their <revision> lists
[15:42:02] <intosi> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11037979/xpath-1-0-finding-count-of-nodes-before-a-specified-node
[15:42:31] <m&m> stackoverflow to the rescue
[15:44:15] <Tobias> yes..works ....thanks :)
[15:44:26] <Tobias> soon we'll have images in our PDFs :)
[15:44:34] <m&m> nice
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[16:19:05] <Tobias> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/14672346/xmpp/extensions/xep-0324.pdf not perfect yet, but a good start i think
[16:21:11] <simon> Nice sequence diagrams!
[16:21:51] <Tobias> well...at least now we *can* use something else than ascii art :D
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[16:23:51] <fippo> 16:41 < xmpp:xsf@muc.xmpp.org/Tobias> soon we'll have images in our PDFs :)
[16:23:55] <fippo> errr...
[16:24:21] <Tobias> errr...?
[16:24:23] <fippo> nice!
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[16:27:01] <Tobias> well..it's pushed...as soon as someone hits a rebuild of all XEPs, the images should be included
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[16:39:54] <m&m> thanks Tobias
[16:42:54] <m&m> I'm a little hesitant to run all.sh at the moment
[16:42:59] <m&m> maybe we can do that this weekend
[16:43:20] <m&m> or someone else with rights can do it (-:
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[17:11:54] <Tobias> xsf@athena:~/xmpp-hg/extensions$ ./gen.py -a
./gen.py:79: Warning: 'with' will become a reserved keyword in Python 2.6
File "./gen.py", line 79
with open(output_dir + '/' + 'inlineimage-' + str(no) + '.' + file_ext, 'wb') as f:
^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
[17:11:59] <Tobias> what's wrong with thatß
[17:12:01] <Tobias> what's wrong with that?
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[17:12:20] <Tobias> worked on osx with Python 2.7.5
[17:12:34] <Tobias> ah..athena has Python 2.5.2
[17:12:41] <fippo> i think the whole "with" is pretty new
[17:12:44] <stpeter> Tobias: is "?" close to "ß" on your keyboard?
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[17:13:06] <Tobias> stpeter, same key on german keyboard :) just a shift between them :)
[17:14:00] <Tobias> fippo, so just write f = open(...) ?
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[17:24:24] <intosi> Tobias: from future import with_statement?
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[17:24:52] <Tobias> yeah..need to add a latex package too..since it's also not present on athena
[17:24:53] <intosi> Well, from __future__ import with_statement, obviously
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[17:42:40] <Tobias> cp -r deps /tmp/xepbuilder/ <--- how do i write this so it copies files from deps to xepbuilder folder, not creating the deps folder in the xepbuilder folder?
[17:47:48] <intosi> cp -r deps/* /tmp/xepbuilder/ ?
[17:48:08] <Tobias> wouldn't the * require a shell?
[17:48:13] <intosi> Or (cd debs; cp -r . /tmp/xepbuilder) if you're worried about the number of files.
[17:48:22] <intosi> Both require a shell.
[17:48:46] <intosi> Are you running this from a shell script?
[17:49:06] <dwd> Oh, Python?
[17:49:15] <Tobias> commands.getstatusoutput
[17:49:18] <Tobias> python
[17:49:33] <intosi> http://docs.python.org/2/library/shutil.html
[17:49:56] <intosi> shutil.copytree might be of interest.
[17:52:32] <Tobias> i'll try the * thing
[17:53:38] <intosi> getstatusoutput actually spawns a shell, IIRC
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[18:05:35] <Tobias> so..rebuilding xeps
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[19:19:09] <fippo> https://twitter.com/lisamarienyc/status/444162578642513920 -- this looks like the next xmpp summit should be near fluentconf
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[19:30:16] <ralphm> heh
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[19:30:34] <ralphm> there is a good supply of bacon on Tenerife, too
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[20:08:58] <Tobias> fippo, better than http://i.imgur.com/TuBI68M.jpg :)
[20:09:30] <dwd> I can't decide if that sounds awesome or awful.
[20:11:16] <Zash> I can't decide if I should run to the store and see if they have any ... or walk.
[20:16:41] <m&m> eek
[20:16:45] <m&m> that is not bacon
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[21:09:46] <Neustradamus> I have found this tweet: https://twitter.com/betamax65/status/441124379318321152/photo/1
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[21:11:11] <fippo> neustradamus: "June 25, 2013: We have temporarily disabled account registration"
[21:11:42] <fippo> but telling the iteam might help
[21:11:57] <Kev> iteam aren't responsible for jabber.org
[21:12:01] <Neustradamus> yes I know this, maybe a person can reply ;)
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[21:12:41] <Neustradamus> Tobias: https://twitter.com/Neustradamus/status/422532965583687680 some months ago ;)
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[21:14:00] <Tobias> yeah..wonder if they are cool enough to use twitter as support input
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[21:20:56] <fippo> neustradamus: simon and I were in contact with some marketing guy via the FSFE -- not much of a response
[21:21:27] <fippo> let's break it for them, then watch them struggle to fix it.
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[23:03:05] <Zash> Break all the things!
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