Tuesday, March 18, 2014
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XSF Discussion | Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/ | Agenda https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings

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[10:24:48] <ralphm> oh, Google Talk / Hangouts are seriously broken.
[10:26:02] <ralphm> I got a subscription request on my Mailgun's Google Apps domain account from a user at the same domain. The JID the request is from looks like user-at-mailgun.com--[hash]@public.talk.google.com.
[10:32:31] <Ge0rG> yay for google talk!
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[10:34:46] <ralphm> (for those who don't understand what's going on, it should of course been from user@mailgun.com)
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[10:38:16] <xnyhps> Maybe Google isn't interpreting it as a GAfYD account, but a Google-accout-with-your-own-email.
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[10:39:18] <ralphm> xnyhps: yeah, but that's superweird, because *my* account is at the same domain
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[15:38:06] <fippo> ralphm: adobe has nice people who care about standards. (and has utterly failed to fight webrtc despite having a better horse but...)
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[15:41:14] <Ge0rG> what about adobe and competent people?
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[15:43:06] <Tobias> fippo, what was their better horse?
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[15:44:39] <fippo> tobias: rtmfp
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[15:45:25] <fippo> but they decided to keep it closed and even the RFC is pretty useless unless you happen to know the secret key
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[17:12:34] <dwd> fippo, I feel Adobe could have done better if I didn't constantly misread their protocol as RTFMP.
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[19:10:23] <Kev> Oh. We've got a dnssec grant, and *now* we need to create proposals about what to do with it? Life is confusing for poor little Kevins.
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[19:14:54] <Simon> :)
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[19:18:15] <Kev> How did we get the second grant?
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[19:18:29] <Kev> I thought the plan was that there'd be proposals, and then we'd ask for one.
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[19:29:22] <bear> is there a testing account for gtalk that anyone knows of? I'm thinking the anwer is no, but wanted to double check
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[19:34:46] <fippo> guru@googlelabs.com something?
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[19:38:56] <m&m> ^ that ^
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[19:48:30] <stpeter> Kev: we have not received a grant for work on DNSSEC - the previous gift was simply support for all the good work we're doing in general
[19:49:12] <Kev> I knew the first gift wasn't for dnssec.
[19:49:16] <stpeter> ok
[19:49:23] <Kev> There was then discussion about applying for a grant for dnssec work
[19:49:33] <Kev> Then Simon posted yesterday that we'd got a grant for dnssec work, so ...
[19:49:33] <stpeter> right
[19:49:36] <stpeter> oh
[19:49:37] <Kev> You can see how I'd get confused.
[19:49:43] <stpeter> no we haven't gotten a grant
[19:49:58] <stpeter> perhaps I miscommunicated with Simon during our video chat yesterday
[19:50:00] <Kev> OK. Someone slap the Board around until they know what's going on please :)
[19:50:16] <stpeter> your understanding is correct
[19:50:36] <stpeter> now we can if desired create a proposal for a more focused grant to work on XMPP and DNSSEC
[19:50:45] <Kev> Right.
[19:50:50] <Kev> There was some discussion that we might want to do this.
[19:50:57] <stpeter> there was
[19:51:00] <Kev> But that we'd need to work out what such a proposal would look like.
[19:51:04] <stpeter> indeed
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[19:51:17] <Kev> I do keep up with Board meetings sometimes ;)
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[19:51:26] <stpeter> and I appreciate that
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[19:53:16] <Simon> Apologies about the text kev - I should have made it more clear that it's a potential grant. Peter did make that clear to me in the call.
[19:54:42] <Kev> A grant in potentia.
[19:55:37] <stpeter> :)
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