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XSF Discussion | Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/ | Agenda https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings

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[12:08:08] <Laura> Working on the website text, who can help by giving me some examples of who is currently using XMPP? Ideally, I want recognisable users - this is a little snapshot on the homepage so it's marketing. Who uses XMPP that people will recognise?
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[12:12:14] <Simon> Facebook, Google GTalk (we'll ignore hangouts for the moment), WhatsApp.
[12:14:13] <Tobias> and Android's Push service, even if it's just for the server interface
[12:14:21] <Zash> and Apples
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[12:15:46] <Simon> true. Didn't P1 do something for Major League Baseball too.
[12:16:54] <fippo> probably worth poking linuxwolf or hildjj if webex uses it
[12:19:11] <Simon> Cisco's Jabber product range.
[12:19:24] <Kev> Simon: I don't think that's true.
[12:19:26] <Kev> Cisco's Jabber isn't XMPP, AFAIK
[12:19:54] <fippo> nah, "cisco jabber" is the old tandberg stuff
[12:20:03] <fippo> http://www.cisco.com/web/about/ac49/ac0/ac1/ac258/JabberInc.html
[12:20:22] <Simon> The Cisco system I'm using at $DayJob let's me use Pidgin to access the system.
[12:20:44] <Kev> They sell a gateway to XMPP, I think.
[12:20:54] <Simon> Microsoft Lync?
[12:20:54] <Kev> At least, that was the impression I got from their webpage. I don't have inside information here.
[12:21:12] <Simon> since they switched from SIP to XMPP.
[12:21:29] <Kev> Sure? I thought Lync was through a gateway as well.
[12:21:38] <fippo> oh right, microsoft lync also includes an xmpp gateway (but is based on sth like sip internally)
[12:22:50] <Simon> Fippo - I think it's all integrated now - no more gateways needed - just a big mush of SIP and XMPP tangled up.
[12:23:31] <fippo> simon: well, the gateway is no longer a separate entity/role. but it's still doing sip<->xmpp i think
[12:24:43] <Simon> So pleased I don't have to deal with the hassle of buying "Client Access Licenses" to use prosody (http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/lync/en-US/7a959a90-b999-4e75-b217-fd412184525f/lync-2013-xmpp)
[12:25:13] <fippo> mattj: consider the business potential!!!
[12:26:26] <Kev> To be fair, I don't know of any XMPP server that uses CAL.
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[12:28:22] <fippo> concurrent users is much easier to implement ;-)
[12:28:42] <Simon> Laura: might be worth mentioning Isode's use of XMPP for military messaging too. That way we have a range of customer, business and govt + millitary uses of XMPP covered.
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[12:29:45] <Simon> fippo - but not nearly as appealing for sales team. Imagine all the licenses you can sell to people who will never login!
[12:29:47] <Laura> Thanks! Will start my list now
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