XSF Discussion - 2015-02-20


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  75. goffi g'day
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  145. Kev Flow: I'm going to remove that comment you added, as it's not a 'join project' in any official sense.
  146. Kev *joint
  147. Kev And I don't want Carol et al. to think we don't understand GSoC when they judge our ideas page.
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  159. Kev If anyone has the ability to work out what our number of students was in 2007, please do so. Also, if anyone has the ability to work out our success rates for 2005-2007, please do so. I haven't been able to work out these numbers myself.
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  162. MattJ Hmm, that was my year as a student :)
  163. MattJ Kev, we had 6 students in 2007
  164. Kev Excellent, application updated, thans.
  165. Flow Kev: Well, if you think it's better to have the comment removed. My idea was to point out the importance of the project.
  166. Kev All orgs think all their projects are important :)
  167. MattJ Kev, I think 100% passed that year, but I can't find anything official
  168. MattJ except that all 6 students uploaded their code here: http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code-2007-xmpp/downloads/list
  169. Kev Ah.
  170. Kev I think that answers it, then, ta.
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  173. Kev I've just edited the page to add difficulties (how did I forget that this year?) - please review.
  174. Kev I'm glad I asked Carol to review it this year; I usually don't.
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  187. Kev Looking at those OF tasks, I wonder if they aren't both too small to be worth a project on their own. Maybe merging them would make sense.
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  189. MattJ Kev, I had similar thoughts
  190. MattJ 191 in Prosody would take an afternoon, maybe two for someone who had never written Lua before
  191. MattJ Maybe a few weeks for someone totally new to programming :)
  192. Kev MAM is pretty Noddy if you don't do search, and you already have a storage backend, too.
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  198. Kev ponders just how vital extensive C++ knowledge and TLS implementation is to a project to map MUC onto Buddycloud.
  199. Kev Anyone Buddycloudish around who wants to suggest better prereqs for that project?
  200. Kev makes something up.
  201. Kev Just done yet another pass over the page.
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  213. Flow Hmm, maybe we could bundle the xep191 openfire task with xep198 acking-only
  214. Flow but mam alone should be enough for a gsoc project, even if openfire has already the archiviing backend
  215. Flow but it's up to dwd to decide
  216. Flow I don't do much openfire development any more
  217. Kev MAM's fairly straightforward on the server, other than efficient storage, and searching. Actually harder on the client.
  218. Kev But sure, adding sensible 198 support might be a reasonable pairing for 191.
  219. Flow daniel: do you think the axolotl conversations project could also produce a rough draft how to embed axolotl in XMPP?
  220. Flow someting like a pre-draft-spec-xep
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  222. Flow I hope that axoltol is able to solve all the issue we have with otr in xmpp
  223. Flow until then i use openpg
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  225. Kev I was wondering about an axalotl project for Swift, but it wasn't obvious to me that there was a C or C++ library.
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  229. Kev BTW - please no-one edit the wiki page from now on.
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  231. Kev Application is in, ideas page is up, nothing to do but wait, and spend the evening fretting that I messed something up.
  232. MattJ It'll be just fine :)
  233. MattJ Thanks for putting it all together
  234. Flow yeah, thanks Kev for setting the page and uplication up
  235. Flow Hope we'll get accepted
  236. Flow In that context: Was there a year where an XSF application was not accepted?
  237. daniel Flow: to extend the project? or you afraid that the project is too small?
  238. Flow daniel: No, to improve interoperability between an axolotl enabled conversations and another xmpp client
  239. daniel Flow: I mean in the end this is of course the expected outcome. but I was more or less going to write this myself with maybe some other people who are interested
  240. Flow and to have some written up for other dev who want to implement
  241. Flow something that eventually ends in an xep
  242. daniel Flow: yes an xep is of course what I'm trying to accomplish
  243. Flow allright :)
  244. daniel but I was afraid this might be too much for gsoc
  245. Flow bbl
  246. Flow uh, that's why I said, rough draft, pre-spec, just something written up that is not source code
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  263. Kev GSoC shouldn't involve writing specs, it's specifically summer of /code/, not documentation. It's fine to do a little spec work in there, but a XEP shouldn't be a significant part.
  264. Kev Well, we're past the deadline now. So I hope everything went ok.
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  268. Kev And to the earlier question - there hasn't /yet/ been a year that we've applied and not been accepted, that I can remember. But rather than treating that as a good sign that we should be accepted, I'm afraid it's more of a sign that we're due a year where we don't make the cut.
  269. Kev Also - I wonder why the room is kicking me out.
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  275. MattJ Kev, your leaving didn't include a message from the server, so I'm inclined to think it wasn't "kicking" (if that helps)
  276. Kev Hmm. Well' it wasn't triggered by my client at least. I'm not entirely sure what my server might be doing to make me leave the room.
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