Friday, August 12, 2016
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XSF Discussion | Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/ | Agenda https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings

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[12:08:17] <mathieui> would it be hard to get some https for mail.jabber.org ?
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[12:20:15] <daniel> Is anyone else having problems validating the caps hash of the member bot?
[12:20:31] <daniel> Or is there something wrong in my implementation
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[12:22:52] <intosi> mathieui: probably not, I'll take a look some time.
[12:23:03] <mathieui> intosi, thanks!
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[23:27:33] <Link Mauve> I’m reading MIX, and section 3 says “A user's participation in a channel outlives their presence session. A user who is offline will not share presence within the channel, but will still be listed as an participant. This too is a significant departure from MUC.” How would that model fit with very short-lived sessions, like the typical help channel where participants use an anonymous JID and are gone forever once they close their browser tab?
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[23:44:03] <Link Mauve> Or are such users expected to continue to use the MUC protocol instead?
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