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XSF Discussion | Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/ | Agenda https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings

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[10:57:30] <Zash> Still board meeting?
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[11:05:15] <Ge0rG> Yes, it's a neverending story
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[11:08:28] <pep.> Flow: section 5.2.2 "<inst-resume-failed-failed>" typo? :)
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[11:12:13] <pep.> 6.1 s/coice/choice
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[11:29:57] <Flow> pep: Thanks. What's your real name, so I can put it into the ack section? :)
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[22:03:12] <Tobias> MattJ, thx for the new MAM version
[22:04:07] <Tobias> MattJ, would be great if could take a minute and chime in on https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/420
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[22:05:03] <MattJ> I haven't read that yet, will do
[22:05:09] <Tobias> thx
[22:05:58] <Zash> Never ending booooaaaard meeeting
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[22:06:52] <daniel> That pr should be obsolete now
[22:08:13] <MattJ> Looks like it
[22:08:14] <Tobias> Zash, if subjects are supposed to be short lived, reflecting current discussion, UIs should ask the user after an hour or two, if the changed subject is still valid :)
[22:08:50] <Zash> Subjects with expiry times? :)
[22:08:57] <MattJ> My only issue now is that the fully-working MAM sync that I've dreamt of is blocked on bind2 :)
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[22:09:50] <Zash> MAM dreams?
[22:10:04] <Tobias> Zash, well..you don't know in advance how long the board meeting goes
[22:10:15] <MattJ> Yes, I've had those (or should that be MAM nightmares?)
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[22:14:39] <Zash> Where'd that meeting bot Kev made go?
[22:14:51] <Kev> Hmm?
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[22:15:19] <Kev> I don't remember if that was a Sleekbot or a Swiftob script, it's so long ago.
[22:15:33] <Zash> Such a bot could revert the topic afterwards
[22:15:44] <Kev> MattJ: Well, it's also blocked on an unread sync spec. Unless you're not dreaming big enough :)
[22:15:53] <Tobias> Zash, but essentially it's a client issue
[22:16:06] <MattJ> Kev, I'd settle for sync, before unread-sync :)
[22:16:25] <Kev> Unread sync is very important to me.
[22:17:17] <Tobias> yup..to have the notifications on the mobile go away when reading things on the desktop
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[22:22:31] <Zash> Peek at chat states and receipts coming through carbons?
[22:23:05] <Zash> And outgoing messages
[22:23:27] <MattJ> I'll still settle for actually not missing messages sent while my phone was offline because they got sent to my desktop, before I'll complain about the notification issue
[22:24:23] <Zash> Except for people having argued that chat states and such shouldn't be carbon'd or mam'd
[22:24:50] <Tobias> Zash, btw: I wonder if MIX should define that stuff like chat state notifications should go over a dedicated pubsub node...or if that belongs in CSN, or a new XEP entirely
[22:25:04] <Kev> Tobias: Not even for that. For when you come online again and need to know what's new.
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[22:26:01] <Tobias> Kev, but it'll fix that notification issue too, not?
[22:26:28] <Kev> Yes.
[22:26:42] <Kev> They're probably two ways of looking at the same issue.
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