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[07:38:05] <jonasw> Guus, if you want to go down the logo rabbit hole for fun, that has been a whole month worth of members@ discussion back in the olden days: https://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/members/2003-March/thread.html
[07:38:24] <jonasw> (I stumbled across that by a google search "site:mail.jabber.org hitler" which was recently "recommended" to me)
[07:38:35] <jonasw> (yes, that search term is related to the logo)
[07:40:19] <jonasw> unfortunately finalists etc. seem to be dead links
[07:40:23] <jonasw> would’ve been fun to follow the traces
[07:41:45] <jonasw> I really would like to know what finalist 5 was for example. apparently, it gets better by staring at it sideways.
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[07:58:29] <Guus> jonasw: the designer forwarded me a couple designs. I can send them to you later. Spending today in a theme park though. 😀
[07:59:49] <jonasw> have fun :)
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[08:25:01] <jonasw> interesting quote from that mailing list archive (darn, I should be preparing for the exam):
> 2. If you don't vote, you *may* be subject to purging from the membership
> (however, this is unlikely since most people have been voting and you need
> to miss three votes in a row in order to be purged).
[08:25:04] <jonasw> is that still a things
[08:25:07] <jonasw> is that still a thing?
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[08:32:24] <Guus> jonasw: I think so. Isn't that in the bylaws? I knew that.
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[08:33:10] <jonasw> Î still find it massively hard to find the bylaws on the website
[08:33:32] <jonasw> and the link I once had in my browser history broke (<http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/xsf-bylaws/>;)
[08:34:03] <jonasw> > Section 2.6 Automatic Termination. Members may have their membership status automatically terminated and their names removed by the Secretary of the Corporation from all membership records of the Corporation if they fail to participate in three (3) consecutive meetings of the Members of the Corporation, held electronically or otherwise.
[08:34:05] <jonasw> indeed
[08:34:20] <jonasw> hm, that’s slightly different though. does one attend if one proxy-votes?
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[08:57:51] <MattJ> Attendance usn't even recorded. Voting obviously is
[08:58:38] <fippo> voting counts as participation iirc. but this rule was never enforced
[08:59:14] <jonasw> right
[08:59:20] <jonasw> also participation ≠ attendance, indeed
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[09:26:57] <jonasw> Link Mauve, I’m still hoping for a XEP-0234 update from you, by the way :)
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[09:45:55] <uc> > would’ve been fun to follow the traces
jonasw:
https://web.archive.org/web/20031007032756/http://www.jabber.org/logo/finalists.php
[09:46:15] <uc>
https://web.archive.org/web/20041025203606/http://www.jabber.org:80/gallery/
[09:46:43] <jonasw> ha nice
[09:47:27] <jonasw> I find though that this is not the logo contest for the logo we’re talking about now.
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[14:48:01] <Ge0rG> Won't membership be terminated if you fail to reapply? That's a pretty strict and clear rule.
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[14:48:19] <jonasw> sure but you could re-apply once a year but not bother to take your duties as member serious in any way
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[15:01:39] <Ge0rG> Very interesting article on UX. We need more of this mindset, for the XSF. https://f2.svbtle.com/ux-in-the-trash
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[15:16:25] <SamWhited> Good read; I get mad about the trash can thing specifically every time I'm in the office… also, the compost one is basically useless because no one reads what it is and everyone just throws everything in there because it's the first one on the left.
[15:16:40] <jonasw> m(
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[15:34:06] <Zash> And then all the sorted trash goes into the same big fire in the end.
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