Wednesday, October 04, 2017
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XSF Discussion | Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/ | Agenda https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings

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[12:25:23] <MattJ> I don't think XEP-0156 security considerations go far enough
[12:26:01] <MattJ> DNS is insecure (in practice), and there is no requirement for the BOSH URL in DNS to match your login host
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[12:26:46] <MattJ> So anyone with the ability to forge DNS for your domain can redirect XEP-0156-capable clients to any place they choose
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[12:40:23] <Zash> -xep 156
[12:40:24] <Bunneh> Zash: XEP-0156: Discovering Alternative XMPP Connection Methods (Standards Track, Draft, 2016-06-07)
See: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0156.html
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[12:40:51] <Zash> -xep dnssec
[12:40:51] <Bunneh> Zash: XEP-0344: Impact of TLS and DNSSEC on Dialback (Standards Track, Deferred, 2017-09-11)
See: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0344.html
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[12:46:24] <Flow> MattJ: anyone with the ability for forge DNS for your domain can redirect clients to any place they choose
[12:46:45] <MattJ> and then you use TLS certificate verification to detect that
[12:46:58] <MattJ> and you don't go ahead with the connection
[12:47:09] <Flow> and that is not true for xep156?
[12:47:23] <MattJ> No
[12:47:37] <MattJ> The XEP recommends using HTTPS, but this is not enough
[12:47:49] <jonasw> Flow, well, it is true, but the attacker can choose the name the client validates against :)
[12:48:02] <MattJ> the BOSH URL can be https://mitm.badguy.net/http-bind
[12:48:32] <Flow> jonasw: with BOSH you validate the cert not against the XMPP domain you want to connect to?
[12:48:34] <MattJ> As long as the bad guy knows how to use Let's Encrypt to get a cert for his own domain, everything will work fine
[12:48:47] <Flow> ahh ok
[12:49:05] <MattJ> BOSH is just HTTPS, it was designed to be used where only a HTTPS API was available
[12:49:15] <Flow> yep, in that case xep156 should eventually require DNSSEC
[12:49:42] <Zash> Like how DNSSEC-signed SRV records are an acceptable proof of delegation
[12:49:43] <jonasw> as if you could enforce that in a JS client.
[12:50:50] <Link Mauve> Another issue is that browsers don’t expose DNSSEC validation to the application.
[12:51:29] <Link Mauve> Hmm, no, that’s unrelated, the HTTP-based way in 0156 is fine, since it is done against the user’s domain.
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[14:19:54] <moparisthebest> Ge0rG, so https://op-co.de/blog/posts/java_sslsocket_mitm/ "undisclosed Android application (contacted on 2014-07-21)" is it time to name it yet? :)
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[14:21:03] <Flow> I had discloused the application back then. I think there where no commits since then
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[14:22:02] <Flow> Uh, I was wrong, last commit is less then 22 months ago
[14:22:13] <moparisthebest> so which app?
[14:22:50] <Ge0rG> moparisthebest: I'm pretty sure it was Xabber.
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[14:23:15] <Flow> Ge0rG: sure? I remember it was a different app
[14:23:39] <Ge0rG> Flow: I'll have a look at my mail archive some time later today
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[14:23:48] <moparisthebest> either way 3 years was probably enough time to name them :)
[14:24:03] <moparisthebest> they've either fixed it or never will at this point
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[14:27:18] <Flow> moparisthebest: there aren't that many xmpp clients for android which existed in 2014 and are not listed on the page
[14:27:22] <Flow> for example xabber is listed
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[15:31:42] <jonasw> to quote from council@:
15:31:23 Tobias> we have logs again, thanks to whoever did that
I can only +1 that :)
[15:32:02] <jonasw> even with the logs from the past
[15:32:55] <intosi> :)
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[15:34:18] <intosi> The gap's there because we didn't log anything at all in that period.
[15:34:24] *Guus blames intosi
[15:34:41] <Guus> ah, unfortunate timing of that message :)
[15:34:46] <intosi> * the six month gap between mid March and September.
[15:34:50] <jonasw> ohh
[15:34:52] <jonasw> I didn’t see that :)
[15:34:58] <jonasw> still amazing :)
[15:35:13] <jonasw> but at least from mid sept, that’s already good
[15:35:40] <intosi> Anything before The Event might not be there, even though the page claims it's there. It's a bit hit and miss.
[15:35:46] <intosi> Yet, didn't want to prune it.
[15:36:24] <Link Mauve> Want me to fill the logs I obtained during that time?
[15:36:45] <Link Mauve> They are in the mcabber/poezio format, which should be easy to convert into whatever format you are using.
[15:37:27] <intosi> @Link Mauve not a terrible idea. No idea when I have time to look at that, but if you have them, might as well pop them over and we can see when to fill in the blanks.
[15:37:48] <moparisthebest> watch out, Link Mauve could have modified logs for his own nefarious purposes
[15:37:56] <Link Mauve> I’ll send March-September for this room, do you want any other room I’m in?
[15:37:56] <moparisthebest> :P
[15:37:57] <intosi> moparisthebest: a valid point
[15:38:01] <Link Mauve> Like council@.
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[15:38:09] <Link Mauve> moparisthebest, indeed.
[15:38:39] <moparisthebest> what, I don't remember the board electing Link Mauve XMPP king for life back in march, oh well, it's in the logs
[15:38:39] <jonasw> I can send my logs, too
[15:38:41] <jonasw> same format :)
[15:38:57] <jonasw> we can diff the textual content and see if there’s anything wrong there
[15:39:08] <moparisthebest> only if we trust you two aren't colluding
[15:39:09] <jonasw> the order should be equivalent, just the timestamps can be fuzzy.
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[15:39:19] <SamWhited> I smell collusion.
[15:39:31] <jonasw> nevar!
[15:39:45] <Guus> as if we should trust the both of you not conspiring...
[15:40:16] <jonasw> I still have a grudge against Link Mauve for not delivering the XEP update he promised, so there’s no way we are colluding!!k :-)
[15:40:21] <intosi> I can toss in whatever I have logged in my own archive, and make an outright mess of things ;)
[15:40:43] <moparisthebest> jonasw, that's exactly what someone colluding would say
[15:40:53] <Ge0rG> I can conspi.. eh.. contribute logs in the same format.
[15:41:28] <Link Mauve> :o
[15:41:45] <jonasw> Link Mauve, just kidding :)
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[15:41:57] <Link Mauve> I will never collude again with you then!
[15:42:03] <jonasw> "again"?
[15:42:15] <moparisthebest> can we vote members out?
[15:42:24] <Link Mauve> jonasw, aren’t we colluding right now?
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[15:42:37] <jonasw> I’m too confused at this point.
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[15:46:05] <ralphm> I'll likely not make the board meeting today, sorry
[15:48:06] <Guus> With SCAM, I'd like to get the effort underway to organize FOSDEM'18 & the corresponding summit. I'd be grateful if people that were invovled in earlier events could help out (as I'm unsure where to start)
[15:48:33] <Guus> please find us in either the summit or scam MUC!
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[15:48:42] <Guus> (but first: dinner! afk)
[15:50:02] <Ge0rG> summit dinner?
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[15:56:38] <nyco> Board meeting time
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[15:58:41] <Martin> Indeed
[15:58:45] <Martin> Who's around?
[15:58:52] <nyco> I'm here until :30
[15:58:55] <jonasw> I can take minutes
[15:59:04] <nyco> but "done is better than perfect"
and "stop starting, start finishing"
[15:59:07] <nyco> oops
[15:59:13] <nyco> https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings
[15:59:28] <Martin> Getting a bit ahead of ourselves unless a third board member pipes up
[16:00:08] <nyco> few items
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[16:00:24] <Arc> present.
[16:00:38] <Martin> Ah, splendid, we are 3
[16:00:49] <nyco> meh
[16:00:50] <Martin> Let's get started
[16:00:51] <nyco> go?
[16:00:55] <Martin> 1. Roll call
[16:00:58] <nyco> gavel, are you here?
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[16:01:23] <Martin> Myself, nyco, and Arc in attendance
[16:01:34] <Martin> 2. Minutes. jonasw?
[16:01:36] <nyco> \m/
[16:01:38] <jonasw> yes
[16:01:40] <MattJ> Here
[16:01:45] <Martin> Ooh, a 4th, excellent
[16:01:50] <nyco> good!
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[16:02:18] <Martin> 3. Topics for decisions. Only thing on Trello is the logo, which I think we okayed last week?
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[16:02:26] <jonasw> yes you did
[16:02:48] <Martin> OK
[16:02:53] <Martin> 4. Commitment list
[16:03:10] <Martin> 4.1 Council & board elections
[16:03:46] <Martin> I saw an email went out about these, what else do we need to do?
[16:04:04] <dwd> Martin, Put your name down? :-)
[16:04:12] <nyco> nothing? agree? say goodbye or apply again?
[16:04:56] <Guus> Perhaps board could reach out to nonmembers
[16:04:56] <Martin> I guess I'm asking the more seasoned hands if the Board have anything specific we need to do at this point?
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[16:05:28] <dwd> Martin, First, ensure that Alex has done the job, which he has.
[16:05:31] <Arc> i'll apply again
[16:05:42] <dwd> Martin, Second, note it for the record.
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[16:07:01] <Martin> Right, good, noted that Alex sent out the details to the members list. As Guus has mentioned, casting a wide net can't hurt.
[16:07:26] <Martin> 5. Items for discussion
[16:07:43] <jonasw> again?
[16:08:01] <Martin> 5.1 "Discuss renaming 'Draft' to 'Stable'
[16:08:07] <Martin> jonasw: Again what?
[16:08:20] <jonasw> aahhh
[16:08:26] <jonasw> I’m too stupid to discern "Discussion" and "decision"
[16:08:27] <jonasw> nevermind me
[16:08:52] <jonasw> (I thought we had "Topics for *discussion*" already, but it was "decision")
[16:08:55] <Martin> Mailing list ref: https://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/standards/2017-September/033441.html
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[16:09:52] <Martin> Any thoughts on this?
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[16:10:24] <Arc> im not sure if we're the right body to decide this
[16:10:30] <Martin> I was wondering the same
[16:10:48] <dwd> Arc, You are, because changes to XEP-0001 (which this would be) are approved by Board.
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[16:12:11] <nyco> "Recommandation", "Request For Comments": what does it mean?
[16:12:29] <nyco> what are the expected benefits of such a name change? for whom?
[16:12:38] <jonasw> nyco, I think this has been discussed in the standards@ thread
[16:13:30] <Martin> Yeah, there still seems to be a fair bit of discussion going on in the mailing list, might be worth seeing how that pans out
[16:13:46] <Arc> seems it, yes
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[16:14:00] <jonasw> the discussion has been stalled for more than one week
[16:14:21] <Guus> That discussion wasn't followed up on any longer.
[16:14:55] <Martin> Blame my inability to navigate mailing lists
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[16:15:26] <Arc> Guus: you're running for the board, right?
[16:15:31] <Guus> Did Council have a statement/
[16:15:36] <Guus> Am I?
[16:16:04] <Guus> I'm considering it, but I've got a bit much boards on my plate as it is :)
[16:16:21] <Arc> me too
[16:16:34] <Martin> OK, correct me if I'm mis-reading the ML thread, but there doesn't seem to be a consensus?
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[16:17:04] <Martin> So there's a discussion, and it seems to have come to a halt, but not to a conclusion...
[16:17:07] <Guus> I think the consensus was to not rename 'experimental' (but strive for XEPs to not linger in that state), but to rename 'draft'
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[16:17:40] <dwd> Guus, I proposed the specific case of Draft => Stable, and even I'm not convinced that has genera agreement from people.
[16:17:43] <Guus> I'm under the impression that this was also discussed and agreed on by Council, but I'm not sure?
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[16:18:34] <Guus> Okay, I might have misread/misinterpreted. I've not been able to keep up the pace the last few days.
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[16:19:21] <dwd> Council didn't approve it; it decided to let discussion continue and see what the Board said.
[16:19:25] <Guus> So, what needs to happen for Board to decide either way?
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[16:19:36] <Guus> "further discussion" won't happen without incentive
[16:20:10] <Guus> dwd, I apologize for the confusion, I must have mixed up a few things.
[16:20:29] <Guus> I'll try to pay better attention next time :)
[16:20:32] <MattJ> I think the discussion has been too varied so far. Before I'd want to approve any change with a Board hat on, I'd rather see a very specific proposal backed by members
[16:20:42] <Martin> +1 to that MattJ
[16:20:48] <Arc> +1 to MattJ
[16:21:11] *dwd was about to type roughly what MattJ said.
[16:21:12] <MattJ> I can post such a proposal to the list
[16:21:21] <nyco> +1 to dwd
[16:21:23] <Martin> Thanks MattJ
[16:21:26] <Guus> MattJ, please do
[16:21:53] <Martin> 5.2 Outsource trademark license application decisions from board to separate WG
[16:22:17] <Martin> Did this come from you, Guus?
[16:22:42] <Guus> Nope. Ge0rG, I think
[16:22:51] <Martin> Mixing up my G's
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[16:23:03] <Guus> We get that a lot.
[16:23:08] <Ge0rG> It was me.
[16:23:13] <Martin> Not much context around it on Trello. I created the card so I probably should've asked for more at the time.
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[16:23:30] <Ge0rG> Not a very serious proposal, just because board had such a long no-meeting time.
[16:25:06] <Martin> Are/were there applications that got held up?
[16:25:15] <jonasw> mine did
[16:25:19] <jonasw> by a week or so
[16:25:23] <jonasw> nothing urgent though
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[16:26:27] <Martin> Feels like a sledgehammer to crack a nut, if the cliche translates.
[16:26:50] <jonasw> I tend to agree
[16:27:16] <Martin> OK, I'll archive it
[16:27:40] <Martin> Ok, let's bring this to a close.
[16:27:42] <Martin> 6. AOBs?
[16:27:44] <Guus> Martin, Arc, where do you work, and what's your primary interest in XMPP, in one or two lines?
[16:27:47] <nyco> nope
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[16:28:07] <Martin> My AOB is I won't be able to attend the next 3 board meetings due to holidays.
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[16:28:49] <Martin> 7. Time & date of next, +1W?
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[16:28:56] <MattJ> wfm
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[16:29:13] <Arc> good
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[16:29:39] <Martin> Right, think we're done. Thanks everyone.
[16:29:42] <nyco> +1w
[16:29:47] <Guus> Martin, Arc?
[16:29:55] <nyco> gotta go, thx, bye!
[16:32:09] <ralphm> Sorry again, guys.
[16:32:14] <Martin> Guus: I work for Surevine, my interest is in using federation to make systems that fit an organisation, not the other way around.
[16:32:32] <Guus> thanks. Arc?
[16:32:40] <ralphm> Ge0rG: not cool at all.
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[16:33:59] <Arc> Guus: ?
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[16:34:28] <ralphm> Your oneliner for the record
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[16:34:39] <jonasw> 16:31:51 Guus> Martin, Arc, where do you work, and what's your primary interest in XMPP,
in one or two lines?
[16:34:42] <jonasw> that’s the context I guess
[16:34:54] <Guus> yup
[16:36:48] <Guus> yeah, I've now ripped it from your last membership application.
[16:36:55] <Guus> bio PR in 3, 2, 1...
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[16:40:00] <Guus> https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/pull/376
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[16:42:28] <Guus> does martin have a github account?
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[16:43:21] <Guus> ah, found it
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[16:46:49] <Guus> Kev, you here by any chance?
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[16:58:23] <Ge0rG> ralphm: pardon me please? What's not cool m
[16:58:36] <Ge0rG> s/m/?/
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[17:10:06] <Arc> I won't be tricked into giving a bio :-P
[17:12:05] <Guus> Arc: please note that a bio has been provided none-the-less. :)
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[17:12:37] <Arc> good, then its not autobio :-P
[17:15:39] <Guus> Kev, Bear, Peter, Ralphm (Lloyd that I don't know). Please elevate me from member to owner on our github repo, add me to the team on dockerhub, and provide me with the twitter credentials. It'd be good to have someone else be available to help people out with requests in order to speed up things (and as I'm currently the requestee most of the time, who's also in iteam, I'd be a logical candidate).
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[17:31:39] <Guus> what's the name for this part in the domain name of a component? thispart.example.org ?
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[17:34:24] <ralphm> label, I think
[17:34:50] <ralphm> But that's DNS terminology, not specific to XMPP
[17:35:29] <ralphm> In XMPP, other than for DNS resolution, the domain is opaque
[17:35:39] <SamWhited> There are three labels in that domain name though. I suspect Guus wants to refer specifically to the subdomain
[17:36:00] <ralphm> There's no intrinsic relation between example.org and sub.example.org
[17:36:32] <SamWhited> It's still common to need to refer to the sub. part though
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[17:38:12] <Zash> "fully qualified"?
[17:38:29] <ralphm> That is nothing more than convention
[17:40:54] <ralphm> The whole thing is fqdn, sure
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[17:41:44] <ralphm> The leftmost part is then a hostname
[17:41:46] <Zash> Not sure if fqdn is a well-defined term tho
[17:41:55] <ralphm> Totally is
[17:42:15] <ralphm> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fully_qualified_domain_name
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[17:46:19] <jonasw> the common term is third-level domain
[17:46:28] <jonasw> which also caters for "top-level" domains like .co.uk somewhat
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[17:47:05] <jonasw> (cc @ Guus)
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[17:47:38] <Guus> Thanks (putting kids to bed now, afk)
[17:47:43] <jonasw> have fun
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[17:48:22] <Guus> Also, ralphm : Kev, Bear, Peter, Ralphm (Lloyd that I don't know). Please elevate me from member to owner on our github repo, add me to the team on dockerhub, and provide me with the twitter credentials. It'd be good to have someone else be available to help people out with requests in order to speed up things (and as I'm currently the requestee most of the time, who's also in iteam, I'd be a logical candidate).
[17:48:43] <Guus> Please elevate my permissions.
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[17:49:27] <ralphm> I'm not near a device to easily do these things
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[17:58:42] <Guus> in xmpp, component domains need not be subdomains of the xmpp domain?
[17:58:54] <Zash> Nope
[17:58:54] <Link Mauve> Nope.
[17:59:16] <Guus> wow. Pretty sure that that's not supported in any of our code
[17:59:20] <Link Mauve> Prosody special-cases those by advertising them in the disco#items of the “parent” domain, other servers may do similar things.
[17:59:34] <Zash> By convention
[17:59:42] <Link Mauve> Guus, by “your”, do you mean OF?
[17:59:55] <Guus> yeah, and Whack
[18:00:06] <Guus> the external component implementation that we have
[18:01:25] <Guus> Perhaps that's because I've always thought this way, but why would one not want an external component to be hierarchically under the xmpp domain? It's part of the same realm, no?
[18:01:47] <Link Mauve> Because there is no relation between them.
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[18:03:38] <stefandxm> also think about PKI/certificates
[18:04:00] <stefandxm> in a decentralized sollution you need to have mulitple independant root certificates
[18:04:14] <stefandxm> (it is the sam argument as @Link Mauve says really, just a different angle)
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[18:05:23] <Guus> does someone actually use addressing like that for external components?
[18:05:44] <Guus> working with my own stuff, i've obviously never seen it. Nor had or heard of the need.
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[18:06:05] <Zash> Outside of the component protocol, it's just another JID
[18:06:37] <Link Mauve> Guus, at JabberFR we serve some 73 user domains, all of them share the same set of components to provide them nice additional features.
[18:07:36] <Guus> Cool
[18:07:48] <Guus> one of the many things to improve on, then
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[18:27:13] <stefandxm> Guus, what do you mean? Multiple domains?
[18:27:30] <stefandxm> multiple domains without s2s?
[18:27:33] <stefandxm> or?
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[18:30:45] <Guus> stefandxm: Link already answered, but I was wondering if there were external components "in the wild" that really have an address that's not a subdomain of the (single) xmpp domain that they're connected to.
[18:31:00] <Guus> that's how I've always used them
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[18:34:07] <Guus> I've been looking at our code - don't even think it would be to hard to change for Openfire - but then again, I wonder if it's worth the trouble
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[18:39:25] <stefandxm> we had it at my old job
[18:39:29] <stefandxm> we ran a hybrid cloud
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[18:39:42] <stefandxm> our cloud was in cloud.companydomain.top
[18:39:49] <stefandxm> rather than company.cloud.top
[18:40:04] <stefandxm> it makes more sense securitywise when it comes to firewalls
[18:40:35] <stefandxm> its also very nice to use for onboarding
[18:41:21] <stefandxm> and not only firewalls but in general. because of certificates again
[18:41:30] <stefandxm> if you run xmpp.company.com
[18:41:37] <stefandxm> you can have a certificate that is linked to the company
[18:41:57] <stefandxm> how would you know to trust company.xmpphost.com ?
[18:42:14] <stefandxm> all you know is that you want to trust company.com
[18:42:19] <stefandxm> what is this xmpphost?
[18:46:27] <moparisthebest> company.xmpphost.com has a certificate valid for company.com, that's how
[18:46:38] <moparisthebest> or, DNSSEC
[18:47:16] <stefandxm> sure
[18:47:22] <stefandxm> my bad. its of course possible
[18:47:39] <stefandxm> albeit seen implementations not liking it
[18:47:42] <stefandxm> but that just buggy =)
[18:48:00] <stefandxm> but i still hold that xmpp.company.com makes more sense
[18:48:55] <moparisthebest> the name doesn't matter at all
[18:49:09] <moparisthebest> you validate the name in the cert
[18:49:31] <moparisthebest> it's actually more code to care whether it's a subdomain or not
[18:49:31] <stefandxm> its a dual side of the coin really
[18:49:35] <stefandxm> yeah
[18:49:43] <stefandxm> and in reality code is what makes everything works
[18:49:55] <stefandxm> lets say you have microsoft.knownfisher.com
[18:50:11] <stefandxm> will you like this certificate even if you would trust the PKI for the certificate alone?
[18:50:22] <stefandxm> its not trivial in reality. but i agree so i dont want to argue :)
[18:50:31] <stefandxm> However. I found out the buildscript issue
[18:50:34] <stefandxm> so know i updated http://opensource.clayster.com/lwtsd/Communications/lwtsd
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[18:50:41] <stefandxm> with "new" error management
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[18:56:15] <stefandxm> ill send it in as an xep if there is enough people who thinks it is worth the work
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[19:45:15] <moparisthebest> so the call for experience on '368 ended yesterday, what's the procedure for a few clerical updates on a draft xep? do I just put in a PR or what?
[19:45:32] <moparisthebest> I suppose council votes or something?
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[19:58:22] <jonasw> moparisthebest, ask me again tomorrow if nobody replies to you in the meantime
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[20:36:22] <ralphm> There's always room for textual changes for clarification and typos and such. A PR seems like a good start. Naturally it is up to the Editors to discuss with Council if a change meets the requirements in section 9.4 of XEP-0001: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0001.html#states-Final
[20:36:39] <ralphm> moparisthebest: ^
[20:39:14] <moparisthebest> it's just more clarification and 1 change from SHOULD to MAY
[20:39:22] <moparisthebest> but yeal I'll put in a PR and go from there, thanks ralphm
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