XSF Discussion - 2017-10-08


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  105. Flow Drugs strike again https://github.com/redsolution/xabber-android/issues/540#issuecomment-334990411 Good thing they don't also have a bitcoin SPV wallet integrated into xabber ;)
  106. jonasw :-O
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  134. Ge0rG Maybe they can pay for not receiving spam then?
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  144. Flow What a novel revenue model. I approve
  145. Flow And probably a good idea for a april 1th XEP
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  156. Ge0rG Flow: not novel. And not even funny, but fact: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/this-spam-service-will-charge-25-to-stop-spamming-you/
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  165. Flow Ge0rG: I know, I was more thinking about the "integrated bitcoin wallet" idea, you know, improve usubablity to increase acceptance. our greatest weakness
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  167. moparisthebest Lol doesn't want it used for drugs, then says "Oh, if you ask me, integration to send bitcoin is more essential for Xabber than OMEMO."
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  181. Flow moparisthebest: cmon, OMEMO is for junkies, bitcoin for potheads
  182. Flow Needles to say that I object the idea that OMEMO and Bitcoin are just tools for "donig illegal stuff"
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  187. moparisthebest Also OTR is probably better for ephemeral illegal conversations Flow
  188. moparisthebest And you can use that over any chat system
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  193. emxp Flow, moparisthebest, moparisthebest: of course....
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  203. Flow Anyone wants to join a order of "OMEMO is for junkies" t-shirts? vanitasvitae maybe? ;)
  204. vanitasvitae Flow: i'm in!
  205. vanitasvitae Imagine that Nemo fish surrounded by syringes and with puke all over it.... Would make for a great shirt :D
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  405. daniel vanitasvitae: I want that shirt
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  421. Ge0rG I wonder if I should get one too, being the most vocal opponent
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  423. Ge0rG Flow: there is an alternative explanation for the 80% drug users... Those are all IBR spam bots advertising drugs..
  424. daniel My impression though is that Conversations/OMEMO is primarily used by terrorists and organized crime.
  425. daniel drug addicts seems to be a very xabber specific thing
  426. Ge0rG Then otr is for drugs?
  427. Ge0rG daniel: are you still over the pond? You shouldn't be mentioning trigger words then...
  428. daniel Looks like it. Organized crime was a lot of pgp. Now they are switching over to omemo.
  429. zinid daniel: so you can target your audience more precisely
  430. daniel Ge0rG: I don't create the problem by talking about it
  431. Ge0rG I wonder if we can motivate the ФСБ to go after xsndr.
  432. daniel And I'm sure 'they' are very aware of that fact
  433. Ge0rG daniel: they are just looking for an excuse to jail you.
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  441. pep. daniel, do you have stats about this btw
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  443. daniel pep.: on how many of omemo users are either terrorists or part of organized crime? No. How on earth would one collect that
  444. pep. :)
  445. Ge0rG Maybe making a user survey. If it works for the US immigration office...
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  447. pep. Ge0rG, agreed, that would solve everything
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