XSF logo XSF Discussion - 2017-10-27


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  101. Link Mauve There is this goldtransfer guy who’s still coming on jabber@conference.jabber.org after having spammed the room, could someone with enough rights ban him (if possible from the entire service)?
  102. Link Mauve I’m only administrator of this room, so I have no power here.
  103. Guus I'm not sure who's maintaining that server, sorry
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  106. Link Mauve Me neither, so I hope sending a message here will reach them.
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  277. moparisthebest postmaster@jabber.org ?
  278. moparisthebest Xmpp doesn't have well defined addresses like that does it
  279. Zash It does, actually. xmpp@
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  282. moparisthebest Hmm did not know, do servers implement that
  283. Zash Do servers implement a standard mail box?
  284. Zash moparisthebest: https://xmpp.org/rfcs/rfc6120.html#contact
  285. Zash In XMPP itself there's {xep 0157}
  286. Bunneh Zash: XEP-0157: Contact Addresses for XMPP Services (Informational, Active, 2007-01-31) See: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0157.html
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  290. Guus will add that to Openfire
  291. Guus we record that stuff, but don't expose it
  292. Zash That one ought to be strongly recommended for public/open services
  293. Link Mauve It should be enabled by default in Prosody imo.
  294. Zash Is it not?
  295. Link Mauve It’s commented out by default. :/
  296. Zash I don't think it should be enabled by default for random personal servers
  297. Link Mauve Random personal servers which don’t want to publish that should be the ones that should be configured to disable it.
  298. Zash Why?
  299. Link Mauve Because most deployments will not change the defaults, which makes the whole network unable to contact their admins.
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  301. Link Mauve When I disabled unencrypted s2s, I tried to contact all of the servers’ admins about that move, and out of some 31 I could only find the contacts details of 5, and only one answered.
  302. Link Mauve (They answered that nothing in the RFC forced them to support TLS, so it was our choice to break s2s with them.)
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  308. Ge0rG I think we should mandate a contact mailbox for IBR servers and servers with other public registration mechanisms.
  309. Zash As a server dev, I much prefer if privacy decisions are taken by the admins.
  310. zinid Zash: +1
  311. Zash It could be changed to look at if IBR is enabled or not
  312. Zash Currently, if enabled but not explicitly configured, it'll advertise the JIDs of configured admins
  313. Ge0rG Zash: what about making IBR depend on a flag that enables publication of admin JIDs?
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  315. Ge0rG Should have pushed that into 0.10... 😕
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  573. moparisthebest Zash: couldn't prosody just forward messages to xmpp@domain to the server admin(s) by default?
  574. moparisthebest Seems like it wouldn't be a privacy problem
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  576. moparisthebest Oh I see, discovery, yuck
  577. moparisthebest So a server plugin could autogenerate those and forward them to admin
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  639. Arc if you're operating a mailserver, you're under no obligation to receive or deliver email, even if the other host is in full compliance
  640. Arc many mailservers require cryptographic and anti-spam measures in order to accept, Google's especially
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