XSF Discussion - 2017-11-15


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  237. Zash Hm, I don't see any logs from around the time of dwds s2s components proposal.
  238. Zash Ah, here we go https://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/council/2015-February/003953.html
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  242. Flow Zash you are the ultimate link archaeologist :)
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  244. Zash :)
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  298. dwd Zash, Yes, nobody ever replied. :-/
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  300. Zash Special addressing is weird tho
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  302. dwd Zash, Yup. I certainly concede that. But it's less weird than using your own domain name in both to and from.
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  361. arc OK now let's see if we can pull a board mtg together
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  366. MattJ Good luck
  367. MattJ Still an hour too early if you ask me :)
  368. arc Mattj we can decide to change it, I'm fine with that, but this is the time we previously agreed to
  369. MattJ Past convention has been to follow DST on one side of the pond or the other (typically EU DST)
  370. MattJ Obviously DST makes things awkward, but we can't control that. Having a meeting move by an hour for everyone at semi-random dates in the year is just as awkward, and we can control that
  371. Zash That's where you're wrong, kiddo
  372. Zash Pretty sure it'll randomly move for everyone regardless of how you try to avoid it.
  373. Zash Especially if you try to avoid it
  374. Zash http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/2017-11-08/#16:00:02
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  376. MattJ For people on the board, there are two sets of DST changes, and they aren't at the same time. A couple of weeks of some people being inconvenienced is better than everyone being inconvenienced until next year
  377. arc Locking to UTC ensures it only changes twice a year for everyone. Locking to local time makes it change four times a year for everyone outside that local time
  378. MattJ *shrug*
  379. MattJ To be fair I'm fine with the time change at the moment, it's mildly more convenient for me :)
  380. arc We as a board can change the time one hour ahead
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  382. arc Its 8 bloody AM for me.
  383. arc I'd prefer it one hour from now
  384. Martin Right, how many of us are here then?
  385. arc 3
  386. arc Our 'b team' is present
  387. Martin OK, let's kick off then
  388. Martin 1. Roll call
  389. MattJ Here
  390. arc Here
  391. Martin …and I'm here
  392. Martin 2. Minutes
  393. Martin dwd?
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  396. Martin ...anyone?
  397. SamWhited dwd is missing from the council meeting which is apparently at the same time as this now, so he better not be over here taking minutes :)
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  399. arc Any volunteers for minutes?
  400. MattJ I can do it
  401. MattJ I don't anticipate they'll be long :)
  402. Martin No, I can't imagine they will be
  403. Martin 3. Topics for decisions
  404. Martin 3.1. Rename "Draft" to "Stable"
  405. arc Obviously meeting time needs to be added
  406. Martin I remember some ML discussion on this, but it didn't feel like it reached a concensus...?
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  408. MattJ We agreed that it needed further discussion. I made a proposal and pushed to Github (to my own fork), and posted it to the list
  409. MattJ The changes highlighted some inconsistency with the wording of XEP-0001, and opinions differ over how to handle that
  410. MattJ and whether this really is a minor change as it seemed a few weeks ago
  411. MattJ So my vote would be to not make any changes, until we better understand what we're going to change and why
  412. Martin I think that's where my head was at too, after reading the ML discussion
  413. MattJ I still think that some change is needed, but we just need to figure it out more thoroughly
  414. Martin OK, I'll leave it where it is for now then
  415. Martin 3.2 Board meeting time
  416. MattJ As mentioned before the meeting, this time is a little more comfortable for me, but I'm fine with +1h if they don't over-run
  417. arc Proposal to move it one hour ahead
  418. MattJ Meanwhile at least one board member said they positively cannot attend at this time
  419. Martin +1h is ok with me
  420. MattJ +1 on +1h
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  422. Martin so 17:00 UTC
  423. arc OK I'll update it on the calendar, and we have to make sure nyco and Ralph know it too
  424. MattJ Thanks
  425. Martin 4. Commitment for week ahead
  426. Martin 4.1 Council & Board elections
  427. Martin These are underway now, right? i can archive the card?
  428. arc Yes
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  430. MattJ They will be concluded by next Wednesday
  431. Martin Excellent
  432. Martin 5. Items for discussion
  433. Martin 5.1 Editor team members
  434. Martin Is this stil ongoing? There's a comment that indicates it might have been mnet
  435. Martin *met
  436. arc Its been on there so long I forget
  437. Martin OK, I'll archive it
  438. Martin 6. AOBs
  439. Martin 6.1. FOSDEM/Summit financials
  440. Martin Feels ancient
  441. MattJ Still unresolved
  442. MattJ i.e. we have not collected money from (some?) sponsors (two years running now)
  443. Martin Is there more to add to the card beyond the title? It just looks like it's been sitting there since July
  444. Martin Can someone who knows the detail add something onto the card?
  445. MattJ I can
  446. Martin Thanks
  447. Martin 6.2. SASL-HT
  448. Martin The link in the card to the mail is broken, or has been removed
  449. dwd I suspect that's long since irrelevant.
  450. arc Also why is the board discussing it?
  451. Martin OK, i'll bin it
  452. Martin 7. Time/date of next
  453. Martin +1W, 17:00 UTC
  454. arc +1
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  456. Martin Good, then I think we're done
  457. arc Bang the gabel πŸ˜€
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  460. Martin *bangs gavel*
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