XSF logo XSF Discussion - 2018-01-02


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  152. Ge0rG daniel: what was the background of the "joining MUCs with bare JID" discussion at 34c3?
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  154. mathieui Ge0rG, what discussion?
  155. Steve Kille Travis seems slow this year
  156. mathieui it was about receiving presence updates from the bare JID of a MUC in order to have a room avatar
  157. mathieui and whether that would break clients or not
  158. jonasw Steve Kille, oh yes
  159. SouL Really nice to put logos and such
  160. jonasw a lot of my things on it time out
  161. jonasw it’s been slow-ish since somewhere between christmas and new years
  162. Ge0rG mathieui: ah, okay. It wasn't quite clear to me from the summary
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  170. Ge0rG marc: what's the status of your proto XEP?
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  172. marc Ge0rG, didn't work on it because of christmas days, 34c3 and new year's eve
  173. marc Ge0rG, but I'll work on it this week
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  175. Ge0rG marc: that's great!
  176. Ge0rG I'm pondering whether I should write an Informational XEP "Best Practices for operating a Public Server"
  177. jonasw seems like a useful document
  178. marc yes
  179. marc What will be the content? "Don't do this!!1!"? :D
  180. Ge0rG Any suggestions for what to write into it beyond what's in the last section of https://yaxim.org/blog/2017/12/22/spam-reduction-on-yax-dot-im/
  181. Ge0rG marc: yes
  182. SouL If Ge0rG is writing that, yes, it would be "Don't do it" haha
  183. marc Ge0rG, do you think it's a problem even if the capatch for IBR is strong enough to prevent account abuses?
  184. Ge0rG I have a hard time not quoting spiderman.
  185. jonasw Ge0rG, I’d suggest a few XEPs which are nice-to-have
  186. jonasw feature-wise
  187. Ge0rG jonasw: beyond 0387?
  188. marc s/capatch/captcha
  189. jonasw possibly not. buf referring to the "most recent compliance suite" is probably good
  190. Ge0rG jonasw: right.
  191. Ge0rG marc: I don't know if there is a captcha strong enough to prevent account abuse.
  192. marc Ge0rG, but automatic account abuse (and spam) is the main reason for not running a public server, right?
  193. jonasw Ge0rG, after further thought, your document should indeed focus on the operational side of things. Having another XEP which advocates implementation of XEPs (which are irrelevant to the operational side but merely provide features, so unlike XEP-0157) would be bad.
  194. Ge0rG jonasw: I'm glad you said that
  195. jonasw but "Keep up-to-date with recent compliance suites and evaluate their implementation" should be one point for operations.
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  209. Alex XSF member Application page for Q1-2018 https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Membership_Applications_Q1_2018
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  215. jonasw \/
  216. jonasw \o/
  217. MattJ I'll remind waqas :)
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  220. Alex MattJ: good idea
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  224. pep. Ge0rG, sorry I'm only getting started in the minute taking slavery business :P I might get better at it eventually
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  226. pep. Depends how long you'll be able to bear with me
  227. Ge0rG pep.: we could use a council minute taker ;)
  228. Ge0rG Admittedly, there are some great volunteers already.
  229. pep. tbh I don't like taking notes. I always lose track of what's going on when I start writing stuff down, plus I can't take part anymore :x
  230. pep. But it's a good exercise, maybe I should do it more often
  231. pep. Though taking minutes from a chatroom discussion is probably easier, as I don't have to remember what's been said
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  267. Steve Kille jonasw: THANKS! that was quick
  268. jonasw Steve Kille, np
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  274. Ge0rG jonasw: do you have a colored diff URL as well?
  275. jonasw Ge0rG, AFAIK the service doesn’t exist anymore
  276. Ge0rG jonasw: so sad.
  277. jonasw yeah
  278. jonasw feel free to set one up :)
  279. Ge0rG jonasw: I'd append that to my TODO list, but it's full already.
  280. Steve Kille Ge0rG: the PR is a well structured sequence of commits, so you can quite easily see the changes from them
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