XSF Discussion - 2018-01-07


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  83. marc Ge0rG, since xmpp://example.com/inviter@example.com is not allowed (authority needs to be a full JID) the account creation process always requires a username for the new account
  84. marc So this is not optional anylonger
  85. Zash Is it not?
  86. marc Zash, hm?
  87. Zash Is xmpp://hostname/ invalid? Where does it say that?
  88. marc Zash, https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5122#section-2.2 See "iauthxmpp"
  89. marc That's too bad :(
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  92. marc Ge0rG, xep-0077 defines ?register action where the path component contains the server to be register on. I think that conflicts with our URI xmpp://invitee@example.com/inviter@example.com?register;preauth=TOKEN
  93. marc God damn... ôÔ
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  105. Ge0rG marc: except you don't need the inviter address in there because it's implicitly known via the token
  106. marc Ge0rG, only if the provider hosts the landing page
  107. Ge0rG marc: you know who invited you from the oob channel. The server knows from the token
  108. Ge0rG marc: the inviter address isn't reliable anyway, somebody could manipulate it
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  110. marc Ge0rG, okay, that's fine for me
  111. marc just asked because we always used this URI format
  112. Ge0rG marc: you used it. I didn't... 😜
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  116. marc Ge0rG, we "defined" this some time ago ;)
  117. Ge0rG marc: I'm pretty sure I told you from the beginning to leave away the inviter JID
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  149. Kev I don't think 5122 says it needs to be a full JID. It does say it needs to have a localpart, though, which is probably what you really care about.
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  151. zinid ha, according to the ABNF from the RFC, 'xmpp:' is a correct URI
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  170. Ge0rG zinid: yes, it's the short form for "do more Jabber!"
  171. zinid ok, I will give the link "xmpp:" to everyone who asks about jabber
  172. zinid for the record, this is a problem of RFC 3986, due to weird 'reg-name' definition
  173. zinid reg-name = *( unreserved / pct-encoded / sub-delims )
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  176. zinid ah
  177. zinid > If the URI scheme defines a default for host, then that default applies when the host subcomponent is undefined or when the registered name is empty (zero length). For example, the "file" URI scheme is defined so that no authority, an empty host, and "localhost" all mean the end-user's machine, whereas the "http" scheme considers a missing authority or empty host invalid.
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  179. zinid so xmpp: should be translated to xmpp:localhost from what I understand
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  261. Ge0rG Which doesn't make any sense, except if serverless becomes a thing
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  266. jonasw marc, could you submit your ProtoXEP soon-ish please?
  267. jonasw I think we’re having a prime example here why it’s nice to develop this as Experimental ASAP
  268. jonasw (every few days somebody asks for something to easier onboard people, and it’d be nice to be able to point to that protoxep in the inbox at least, even better if we had that experimental XEP)
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  273. Ge0rG Yes, I'm anticipating it as well.
  274. jonasw marc, if there are open TODOs in your XEP that is entirely fine
  275. Ge0rG Yaxim 0.9.3 will be finished soon, and it would be awesome to have that in it
  276. jonasw (since you’ve got a PoC implementation, I presume that it is implementable)
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  291. zinid does the xep require server interaction?
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  296. Ge0rG zinid: yes, ad-hoc commands to generate tokens and server support to redeem them in IBR or roster subscription
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