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XSF Discussion | Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/ | Agenda https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings

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[10:06:45] <marc> Ge0rG, since xmpp://example.com/inviter@example.com is not allowed (authority needs to be a full JID) the account creation process always requires a username for the new account
[10:06:51] <marc> So this is not optional anylonger
[10:07:17] <Zash> Is it not?
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[10:11:11] <marc> Zash, hm?
[10:11:40] <Zash> Is xmpp://hostname/ invalid? Where does it say that?
[10:13:40] <marc> Zash, https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5122#section-2.2 See "iauthxmpp"
[10:14:25] <marc> That's too bad :(
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[10:47:36] <marc> Ge0rG, xep-0077 defines ?register action where the path component contains the server to be register on. I think that conflicts with our URI xmpp://invitee@example.com/inviter@example.com?register;preauth=TOKEN
[10:47:40] <marc> God damn... ôÔ
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[11:53:23] <Ge0rG> marc: except you don't need the inviter address in there because it's implicitly known via the token
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[11:54:02] <marc> Ge0rG, only if the provider hosts the landing page
[11:55:11] <Ge0rG> marc: you know who invited you from the oob channel. The server knows from the token
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[11:55:46] <Ge0rG> marc: the inviter address isn't reliable anyway, somebody could manipulate it
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[11:56:42] <marc> Ge0rG, okay, that's fine for me
[11:57:04] <marc> just asked because we always used this URI format
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[12:00:12] <Ge0rG> marc: you used it. I didn't... 😜
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[12:00:40] <marc> Ge0rG, we "defined" this some time ago ;)
[12:01:22] <Ge0rG> marc: I'm pretty sure I told you from the beginning to leave away the inviter JID
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[13:19:45] <Kev> I don't think 5122 says it needs to be a full JID. It does say it needs to have a localpart, though, which is probably what you really care about.
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[13:26:56] <zinid> ha, according to the ABNF from the RFC, 'xmpp:' is a correct URI
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[14:08:09] <Ge0rG> zinid: yes, it's the short form for "do more Jabber!"
[14:09:01] <zinid> ok, I will give the link "xmpp:" to everyone who asks about jabber
[14:10:40] <zinid> for the record, this is a problem of RFC 3986, due to weird 'reg-name' definition
[14:11:24] <zinid> reg-name = *( unreserved / pct-encoded / sub-delims )
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[14:12:20] <zinid> ah
[14:12:25] <zinid> > If the URI scheme defines a default for host, then that default
applies when the host subcomponent is undefined or when the
registered name is empty (zero length). For example, the "file" URI
scheme is defined so that no authority, an empty host, and
"localhost" all mean the end-user's machine, whereas the "http"
scheme considers a missing authority or empty host invalid.
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[14:12:51] <zinid> so xmpp: should be translated to xmpp:localhost from what I understand
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[16:45:53] <Ge0rG> Which doesn't make any sense, except if serverless becomes a thing
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[16:54:43] <jonasw> marc, could you submit your ProtoXEP soon-ish please?
[16:54:58] <jonasw> I think we’re having a prime example here why it’s nice to develop this as Experimental ASAP
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[16:55:50] <jonasw> (every few days somebody asks for something to easier onboard people, and it’d be nice to be able to point to that protoxep in the inbox at least, even better if we had that experimental XEP)
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[17:07:45] <Ge0rG> Yes, I'm anticipating it as well.
[17:07:59] <jonasw> marc, if there are open TODOs in your XEP that is entirely fine
[17:08:14] <Ge0rG> Yaxim 0.9.3 will be finished soon, and it would be awesome to have that in it
[17:08:15] <jonasw> (since you’ve got a PoC implementation, I presume that it is implementable)
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[17:46:38] <zinid> does the xep require server interaction?
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[17:56:43] <Ge0rG> zinid: yes, ad-hoc commands to generate tokens and server support to redeem them in IBR or roster subscription
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