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SouL
Oh, reading that email from Jitsi is sad
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intosi
Assuming I'm not the only one that didn't get that, do you have a link?
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Kev
About 12 lines up.
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Ge0rG
23:11:10 edhelas> http://lists.jitsi.org/pipermail/dev/2018-January/036563.html nice <3 is it that one?
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intosi
Ah yes, that's sad. Thank you.
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intosi
It was swamped out by a rather unhelpful flurry of leave/join messages.
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Ge0rG
"12 lines" is very relative in a MUC with partially shared history and client-defined display of status changes.
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Dave Cridland
Link Mauve, You might want to talk with Guus, who's been doing a lot of work on ofMeet (which is - sort of - embedded JitsiMeet in Openfire). I'd love to see good interop here, and I'm also kicking about JitsiMeet at work.
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SouL
Would be super cool to have it, a feature that is frequently asked for on clients
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Link Mauve
Dave Cridland, indeed, but I mostly didn’t start the RE part on their protocols yet, so I don’t have much to talk about.
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Link Mauve
My main usecase would be to bring jitsi-videobridge support to the Gstreamer-based clients, to allow interoperability with WebRTC-based ones.
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Guus
I'm just popping in as my name is mentioned. OFMeet _is_ Jitsi Meet embedded in Openfire (combined with the JVB).
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Link Mauve
We did talk about that last year. ^^
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Ge0rG
That outreachy mail sounds interesting
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pep.
Dave Cridland, regarding that email, I'd be interested to know what web interfaces for MUC you're referring to, and if they're libre and still maintained
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pep.
(I know a few, I was just surprised by the "*lots*")
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Dave Cridland
jonasw, Am I right in thinking there's nothing new for the Council this week?
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Dave Cridland
jonasw, I feel I'm almost certainly missing something.
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jonasw
Dave Cridland, you didn’t process the thing I sent you last week
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jonasw
my MUC PR
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jonasw
otherwise, I don’t thnik there is. the week has been dominated by the compliance suites discussion
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jonasw
re suites by the way: I’m not sure what he process is, but if council has the power and wants to exert it, I’m happy to take ownership for XEP-0387; I’ll also state right here that I’m fine with having Kevs PR merged.
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Ge0rG
Dave Cridland: I'd like to make some progress on user-invite protoXEP, but that requires action from a different Council member, and you are already hunting us in a positive way.
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Dave Cridland
jonasw, Cool. I'm not even sure I know what the process is. Kev might. I think there may even not be any process as such.
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Dave Cridland
Ge0rG, I'm definitely having a voting update. But Client Key and TOTP expire tomorrow, so that's something.
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Kev
I don't believe, offhand, that there is a process for getting a Rejected XEP back.
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Ge0rG
Dave Cridland: yes, you are right. I'll have to wait another week. Or we need to ping daniel.
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Ge0rG
Kev: does it need to have a process? Can't we as council just move it forward?
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Ge0rG
Insistence on process was exactly why we got into the messy position we are in now.
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Kev
No, really not.
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Kev
If we insisted on process, Council wouldn't have voted.
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Ge0rG
So if jonasw takes up 387, merges the PR before tomorrow's meeting and we all vote on advancing it.
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Ge0rG
...won't the world become a better place then?
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jonasw
Ge0rG, I’m not sure if council needs to allow me to do that
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jonasw
but if it does, we can have the merge happen before the meeting is over ;-)
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jonasw
maybe; I’ll be at work tomorrow
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Ge0rG
Kev: I'm not quite sure what your point is, or even whether it contradicts my point.
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Dave Cridland
Kev, I would note that it couldn't be rejected in the first place without a vote. XEP-0001 is fairly clear on that IIRC.
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Dave Cridland
Kev, I was thinking the change of author.
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Kev
Oh, I don't think we actually need a process for that. Sam wants to not be author, Jonas wants to be author, we just need a PR.
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jonasw
well, if that’s all we need, I can fix that
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Ge0rG
> [Council members] don't take a dump, son, without a plan.
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jonasw
spam?
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jonasw
Dave Cridland, Kev, https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/576
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Ge0rG
👍
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zinid
> I'd like to make some progress on user-invite protoXEP Is there any code yet? The author said he is working on prototype, but I didn't see the PR so far 😀
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Ge0rG
zinid: feel free to write some, then
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zinid
I don't even understand what this xep is about
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zinid
Also, I usually don't touch xmpp part in ejabberd, lol
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Ge0rG
zinid: it's about making account onboarding easier
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zinid
Not interested, I think it's useless, our audience is nerds, never gonna be changed
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Ge0rG
Nerds on low-latency links, yes.
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zinid
True
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zinid
But there is a bright side if you accept this: no need to bother on onboarding, easy xmpp and stuff like that, just concentrate on really fun stuff - omemo, Tor, encrypted jingles and so on
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Dave Cridland
zinid, Encrypt all the things?
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zinid
Dave Cridland, sure
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zinid
Dave Cridland, because why not? :)