XSF logo XSF Discussion - 2018-02-05


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  183. marc Ge0rG: anything new regarding protoXEP?
  184. Ge0rG hi marc! We got it in, as XEP-0401
  185. Ge0rG marc: I've asked for feedback from the standards@ ML regarding the IBR extension, but got not much so far
  186. Ge0rG marc: people would prefer a data form :(
  187. marc Wow, cool. A data form instead of an ad-hoc command?
  188. Ge0rG marc: a data form instead of a new IBR element.
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  191. Ge0rG marc: for the actual account registration, not for requesting the account
  192. marc Okay, so that's what I used in the first place :D
  193. marc Not a big problem IMO
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  216. Ge0rG I don't like it because it requires more complicated logic to figure out how to map fields to your client UI
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  220. marc Why? The field has a name and the names are defined in the XEP, no?
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  222. Zash If you do it like in MAM with a basic set of predefined fields?
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  241. Ge0rG Zash: even then, I end up comparing a list of my own UI elements to a list of server-side form fields, with a need to fall back to a data form UI when a mismatch is found
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  246. jonasw Ge0rG, I don’t see the point; if you don’t want to support data forms, only support that specific setup of data forms and treat it as if IBR wasn’t supported at all/didn’t work otherwise.
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  249. jonasw also, Ge0rG: A host MUST NOT add new fields to the 'jabber:iq:register' namespace; instead, extensibility SHOULD be pursued via the Data Forms protocol as specified herein.
  250. jonasw (from XEP-0077)
  251. Ge0rG jonasw: you can override MUST NOT with another XEP
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  254. jonasw ugh
  255. Ge0rG jonasw: the problem is to detect whether this is the "that specific setup of data forms"
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  257. jonasw FORM_TYPE would tell you
  258. jonasw I don’t see a problem at all. compare form_type, compare set of var values, if they don’t match your expectations, afil
  259. jonasw I don’t see a problem at all. compare form_type, compare set of var values, if they don’t match your expectations, fail
  260. Ge0rG jonasw: how will FORM_TYPE tell me? It will be just `jabber🇮🇶register`
  261. jonasw that’s a start
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  263. pep. rrr smileys. Ge0rG I assume you meant `jabber:iq:register`
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  278. Ge0rG pep.: yes, indeed. I need to fix that script finally
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  352. edhelas https://github.com/henry-luo/mark
  353. Zash no
  354. edhelas Zash you're so focused on the past
  355. Zash no
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  368. jonasw search for namespace didn’t yield anything
  369. jonasw doomed
  370. Zash Looked like HTML with {} instead of <>
  371. Zash Meh
  372. Zash Relevance to XMPP: Can't see any
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  380. moparisthebest yes that's exactly what we need, one new standard to replace all the existing ones https://xkcd.com/927/
  381. Zash It wont
  382. Guus obligatory
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  411. ralphm yaml adoption is limited, haha
  412. Zash didn't toml come to replace yaml?
  413. moparisthebest I also enjoy how it has downsides to json like 'not as widely supported as json' but no downsides to xml
  414. moparisthebest I guess it's as widely supported as XML ?
  415. Ge0rG XML, the configuration file format from hell
  416. Zash Also, meh, I have Lua table notation. I don't need no JSON-XML hybrid
  417. Zash Good luck inventing a format for everything that doesn't suck at everything.
  418. edhelas https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0239.html cover pretty much all the cases
  419. Zash Perfection
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