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XSF Discussion | Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/ | Agenda https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings

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[08:44:13] <jonasw> uh, so I gotta vote for myself
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[09:06:18] <jonasw> marc, do you intend to bring https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/585 to the standards@ list? Please comment with your intention so that I can move forward with the PR, thanks.
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[09:10:02] <marc> jonasw, not really, I'm not on @standards
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[09:10:38] <jonasw> marc, uh, can you join please?
[09:10:46] <jonasw> it is kind of expected of XEP authors
[09:10:54] <jonasw> that’s where comments on your XEP will usually be raised
[09:11:23] <marc> puh... GitHub account *and* joining a mailing list
[09:11:24] <marc> :D
[09:11:57] <jonasw> github is optional ;)
[09:12:10] <marc> haha
[09:12:10] <jonasw> (it just makes my life easier, but you can always mail PRs to editor@)
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[09:16:23] <marc> jonasw, will do but tomorrow or on monday
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[09:37:55] <edhelas> dwd here ?
[09:38:16] <edhelas> would it be possible to update https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0376.html to make the subscription fit with the namespace here https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0330.html
[09:38:28] <edhelas> urn:xmpp:pubsub:subscription:0
[09:38:42] <jonasw> 330 doesn’t use :0?
[09:39:05] <edhelas> 0330 define :0
[09:39:31] <edhelas> I can also bump 0330 if you need it
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[09:41:27] <jonasw> agh, right
[09:41:57] <jonasw> I also confused namespace and node
[09:42:00] <jonasw> I’m not awake yet
[09:43:33] <edhelas> ok
[09:43:42] <jonasw> I’m not sure what the benefit would be though
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[09:45:14] <jonasw> > 21:31:53 mathieui> I still haven’t come up with a way of saying my nick in english non-awkwardly
how about "matthew"?
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[09:49:29] <mathieui> that’s more like an english translation of my name, and there’s MattJ
[09:49:56] <jonasw> yeah; french matthew? ;-)
[09:50:07] <jonasw> names are tricky
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[09:57:33] <Flow> It's such a pity that we don't have the htmldiffs on xep bumps any more :(
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[15:18:27] <jonasw> flow, yes, but we also don’t have a way to work around that, given that htmldiff is really really inefficient
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[15:19:58] <flow> how about starting htmldiff with a 5 min timeout?
[15:20:16] <jonasw> it won’t terminate on many XEPs
[15:20:27] <jonasw> and also iteam won’t agree to running this on the server.
[15:20:40] <jonasw> so we’d have to do some trickery, and since incremental builds with dockerhub do not work, I don’t see a viable way
[15:20:42] <flow> true, that's why I suggest using the timoout binary
[15:20:53] <flow> *timeout
[15:21:41] <flow> ahh, do we incrementally create the diffs, or all diffs every time?
[15:21:48] <jonasw> we don’t at all currently
[15:21:52] <jonasw> but I’m afraid that we would have to do the latter
[15:22:05] <flow>
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[15:22:54] <Guus> What's an advisable namespace template for proprietary xmpp functionality?
[15:23:08] <jonasw> Guus, https://company.example/
[15:23:10] <flow> Guus, a URI you contral
[15:23:13] <jonasw> then whatever you like
[15:23:21] <jonasw> I personally do https://xmlns.zombofant.net/…
[15:23:21] <Guus> Is urn:xmpp: reserved?
[15:23:27] <jonasw> it belongs to the XSF afaik
[15:23:33] <flow> Guus, it's registered with the IANA
[15:23:51] <Guus> kk, uri it is
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[15:24:22] <jonasw> you could of course also do urn:uuid:
[15:24:40] <flow> Guus, and I think you want URLs and not URNs
[15:24:56] <Guus> Pourquoi?
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[15:25:51] <Guus> Its not referencing a location, but it is an identifier. So a URI or URN, I'd say?
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[15:26:20] <jonasw> I always get super-confused by those nuanced differences
[15:26:21] <flow> Guus, IIRC xml namespaces only allow URL
[15:26:48] <jonasw> [Definition: An XML namespace is identified by a URI reference [RFC3986]; element and attribute names may be placed in an XML namespace using the mechanisms described in this specification. ]
[15:26:54] <Guus> flow: surely not. We use urn:xmpp in xmpp
[15:27:14] <flow> Guus, that's not an indication that it's done right
[15:27:18] <flow> but I could be wrong
[15:27:22] <flow> as said, IIRC
[15:27:23] <jonasw> flow, https://www.w3.org/TR/REC-xml-names/#concepts
[15:27:32] <jonasw> "identified by a URI reference"
[15:27:59] <jonasw> so URN is a subset of URI and thus valid
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[15:29:21] <Guus> Kk
[15:29:24] <Guus> Tx
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[15:35:11] <jonasw> Guus, bonus points if the URLs point to a schema or document describing what you’re doing :)
[15:36:10] <Seve> Does anyone know something about https://github.com/esl/MongooseIM/blob/inbox-proto-xep/doc/open-extensions/xeps/xep-inbox.html ? A XEP to know which was the last message you read and such. Or is it going to be just in Bind 2.0? https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0386.html#example-3
[15:36:23] <Seve> We discussed this at the Summit, but if someone could refresh my memory, please
[15:36:45] <jonasw> I guess this will in some way be in bind 2
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[17:05:53] <Seve> Hmm... My question is regarding this table: https://github.com/SeveFP/KDE_IM_Requirements/wiki/XMPP-Table
I would like to put something on "Remembers last-read position"
In Poezio you can leave the view on a certain position and continue reading later on, but if some XEP could assist this and say "Well, not now, but clients could implement it with XEP-0XXX"
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[17:08:22] <stoneturtle> :)
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[17:08:45] <jonasw> Seve, that are chat markers
[17:08:51] <jonasw> I’d be surprised if poezio didn’t even emit them
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[17:09:09] <mathieui> it doesn’t
[17:09:13] <jonasw> :(
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[17:09:46] <mathieui> (but I would consider poezio as not having the previously mentioned feature until we have real chat markers)
[17:10:21] <jonasw> Seve, the IRC bridges go the wrong way though
[17:10:45] <jonasw> with biboumi, IRC is still the "primary" medium of communication
[17:11:15] <Seve> It's because we had this discussion at Summit, so clients could know what you have read and such, and this would be multi device. That's why I liked to Michał Piotrowski's XEP (Inbox)
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[17:11:58] <jonasw> Seve, for persistent public logging, research the prosody module which is used for xmpp.org and link to the logs of this channel
[17:12:03] <jonasw> (or something like that)
[17:12:14] <jonasw> http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/2018-02-17/#17:11:58
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[17:12:43] <jonasw> I think that’s this: https://modules.prosody.im/mod_muc_log_http.html
[17:12:54] <jonasw> but I’m not sure, ask in xmpp:prosody@conference.prosody.im?join
[17:13:12] <jonasw> Firewall friendly: link to XEP-0368
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[17:14:03] <jonasw> Firewall friendly: link to XEP-0368, or even https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Tech_pages/XEP-0368
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[17:14:54] <jonasw> Seve, " Depends on the client. Psi and Gajim are able to do this.", this sounds as if ONLY Psi and Gajim can do it. add an "for example," :)
[17:16:00] <Seve> jonasw, Thanks!! Yes you are right, I'm just starting with it, any feedback is welcome please. I'm going to update it as soon as I get home!
[17:16:13] <jonasw> Seve, you’re welcome. that should be all of my feedback for now though :)
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[17:36:21] <Ge0rG> The nice thing about biboumi is that it allows multi client usage
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[17:36:35] <Ge0rG> Kind of like a bouncer.
[17:37:04] <Ge0rG> But yeah, the ideal solution would be an irc server interface exposed by a MUC.
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[19:10:34] <moparisthebest> Ge0rG, that's what this is https://github.com/moparisthebest/xmpp-ircd
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[19:41:59] <Seve> jonasw, sorry, I didn't understand you. Now, reading moparisthebest's comment, do you mean when they say 'IRC Bridge' they mean connect to XMPP from IRC?
[19:42:42] <moparisthebest> Well there are 2 different ways
[19:43:15] <moparisthebest> Biboumi let's you connect to an IRC server with an XMPP client
[19:43:46] <moparisthebest> The opposite is connecting to xmpp muc with an IRC client, that's my thing
[19:44:36] <moparisthebest> IRC bridge is ambiguous
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[19:47:08] <Seve> By the way, thanks for that, I will add it to the table if you don't mind! Pretty handy for this situation.
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[19:54:55] <moparisthebest> Oh yea in terms of recommending xmpp mucs to KDE IRC bridge means xmpp-ircd
[19:55:04] <moparisthebest> Sorry I hadn't read backlog
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[19:56:15] <Seve> moparisthebest, my bad, I should have specified too
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[19:58:21] <moparisthebest> An interesting side effect to it that I didn't even plan is you can join from multiple IRC clients with the same Nick and it all just works
[19:58:39] <moparisthebest> As far as I know no other IRC server supports that
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[20:27:37] <Ge0rG> moparisthebest: is there authentication in place
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[20:34:15] <Seve> moparisthebest, jonasw, then, from looking at the table, I should put xmpp-ircd in 'IRC Bridge' and biboume and spectrum in 'Popular bridges'?
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[20:45:52] <moparisthebest> Ge0rG: no that's the part that is missing, like, nickserv at least, maybe chanserv
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[20:46:13] <moparisthebest> Seve: still not exactly sure what they are after
[20:46:45] <moparisthebest> My thing is useful if they are hosting a muc, IRC users can join directly
[20:47:03] <moparisthebest> Biboumi is useful if they are giving out xmpp accounts
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[20:58:25] <Ge0rG> moparisthebest: will it properly reflect message ids? 😀
[20:58:59] <moparisthebest> Ge0rG: isn't that the mucs job?
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[20:59:54] <Ge0rG> moparisthebest: depends on whom you ask
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[21:02:08] <Ge0rG> moparisthebest: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/XEP-Remarks/XEP-0045:_Multi-User_Chat#Matching_Your_Reflected_Message
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[21:03:38] <moparisthebest> Ge0rG: so being a component it knows there are no other clients, so it can just match the sending nick and ignore all
[21:04:07] <moparisthebest> Which I'm guessing it's what it does, been awhile, and I didn't write it all in the first place
[21:04:50] <Ge0rG> moparisthebest: sorry, I was still talking of your reverse gateway.
[21:05:02] <moparisthebest> Yes I am too
[21:05:06] <Ge0rG> I know that biboumi fails hard on reflection
[21:05:31] <Ge0rG> moparisthebest: then I don't understand what you mean. Maybe it's just too late, I will try on Monday
[21:05:32] <moparisthebest> Biboumi is a muc though, my thing just uses mucs
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[21:06:51] <moparisthebest> Ge0rG: If you are guaranteed no other clients are connected to the same account on a muc you don't have to worry about matching
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[21:11:08] <Ge0rG> moparisthebest [20:58]:
> An interesting side effect to it that I didn't even plan is you can join from multiple IRC clients with the same Nick and it all just works
That just doesn't fit with what you just said
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[21:12:52] <moparisthebest> Ah yes so it must only display on recieve and never send
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[22:58:22] <Seve> Would you link to https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0372.html as the specification for 'Reply to (quote) messages with reference to the original message'?
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[22:58:38] <Seve> Since it has a lot of TODOs, I'm not sure if I should.
[22:59:00] <Seve> Maybe that would scare more than make it interesting
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[23:02:52] <Kev> Link to in what context? References is the way to do that, yes.
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[23:03:11] <Kev> We'll be implementing some references stuff in Swift imminently.
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[23:07:14] <Seve> Kev, that's great to hear!
I'm just doing this: https://github.com/SeveFP/KDE_IM_Requirements/wiki/XMPP-Table (The original is here https://community.kde.org/IM_Survey_Results but I can't edit that, so I'm making it on my own on GitHub)
The sentence is from those requirements but from another place, where they are a bit more explained. In the table it just says 'Quotes' but I guess I should say references.
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[23:07:47] <Kev> And you've got 393 for just quote formatting.
[23:08:34] <SamWhited> The "TODO: define character appropriately" still seems like an important part missing from references; I probably wouldn't consider it fit for use until that's fixed.
[23:09:34] <Seve> Kev, yes, I wrote that, but I also wanted to specify that there's a XEP for referencing other messages, since I think is something expected. The XEP is still in need of some work, so I'm not sure if I should put it there, because the audience of that table I'm doing may or may not understand how the process work and will think I'm joking or something like that. I guess you get what I mean.
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[23:11:31] <Seve> SamWhited, thank you
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[23:12:35] <Seve> SamWhited, by the way, I haven't replied yet, but thank you very much for your answer on the mailing list, very very good and helpful!
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[23:15:21] <SamWhited> Sure thing, I hope it ends up being useful. Their requirements list was a tad vague though, so maybe once they've tightened it up a bit we can help them.
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[23:18:07] <Seve> SamWhited, indeed. It seems that the table I'm filling, is based on https://sessellift.wordpress.com/2017/09/05/results-of-the-requirements-survey-for-a-kde-wide-chat-solution/
So I'm trying to match the requirements on the table with the ones on that blogpost.
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