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XSF Discussion | Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/ | Agenda https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings

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[03:23:32] <stefandxm> i forgot to ask if anyone was at mwc; so if so; ill be at airport tomorrow from 12-14 :)
[03:24:02] <stefandxm> or erhm, today ;)
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[13:35:44] <Guus> Is there a standard way to advertise a BOSH endpoint?
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[13:36:14] <jonasw> Guus, {xep 156}
[13:36:16] <Bunneh> Guus: Discovering Alternative XMPP Connection Methods (Standards Track, Draft, 2016-06-07)
See: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0156.html
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[13:39:32] <Guus> tx
[13:40:28] <jonasw> yw
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[21:08:22] <Fabian> Is there any way to define group membership for access management? For example, to grant access to a pubsub node to all members of a group instead of each jid individually (I'm thinking of MIX chat rooms...)
[21:08:29] <Fabian> In the pubsub specs, the "roster" access model seems closest to what I'm thinking, but it is always tied to the owner's personal roster...
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[21:16:02] <Dave Cridland> Fabian, There's no interoperable thing to do that. But I believe a couple of servers might have something. I would not be averse to trying to standardize something there.
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[21:24:16] <Fabian> But that would probably not work without modifying the originial pubsub spec, right?
Groups definitions could be standardized in a new XEP, but a new "node access model" would have to be added to the pubsub access model in the original spec...
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