XSF logo XSF Discussion - 2018-03-29


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  340. Zash Hm?
  341. Holger Hm!
  342. Ge0rG Hm.
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  344. edhelas ¿Hm?
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  411. Martin *waves*
  412. ralphm heya
  413. ralphm bangs gavel
  414. ralphm set the topic to XSF Board Meeting | Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/ | Agenda https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings
  415. ralphm 0. Welcome and Agenda
  416. ralphm Who do we have and do you have something to add to the agenda?
  417. pep. Kev, in the intro of im-ng, s/has progressed/have progressed/
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  420. pep. oops, sorry
  421. Martin I'm here. I don't have anything to add.
  422. Guus same
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  425. ralphm MattJ, nyco?
  426. MattJ Here
  427. ralphm 1. Board prios.
  428. ralphm Guus, you wanted to say something on this I believe.
  429. Guus I motion that we no longer plan for a dedicated priorities-meeting.
  430. Guus if we really thought that it would be valuable, it would have happened by now.
  431. Guus we're 3 months in our 1 year term. Prio definition should be completed or no longer attempted.
  432. MattJ Is it blocking progress on any front?
  433. ralphm I don't think it does.
  434. Guus We're holding other things, waiting for it.
  435. Guus I dedicated a lane in trello for that.
  436. Guus (the right most)
  437. ralphm Right, that's blocking in the other direction
  438. Guus I think we should consider this one failed, and start to put the limited amount of effort that we can spare on different things.
  439. ralphm Incrementally.
  440. ralphm I can agree
  441. Guus (that came out funny - hope you understood my meaning)
  442. MattJ I'm fine with that. Personally it's not taking any time from me, except for the minutes every week we spend discussing it
  443. Martin I'm of the same view as MattJ
  444. MattJ and I don't feel it's especially required for anything I'd like to see done this year
  445. ralphm It would seem the motion carries.
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  448. Guus (which reminds me: we need a minute taker)
  449. MattJ Indeed. I just realised... did I volunteer last week?
  450. ralphm Guus: oh, good one.
  451. Guus MattJ, I think you did. Want to redeem yourself by being it this week? 😉
  452. ralphm Yes, MattJ
  453. MattJ Sure, I'll do this one and last
  454. Guus weazles his way out of things.
  455. ralphm :-D
  456. MattJ Sorry about that
  457. Guus no worries
  458. ralphm 2. Bus factor
  459. Guus Peter, are you here?
  460. Guus (he mentioned via mail that he wanted to try being here for this)
  461. ralphm I don't see him in here.
  462. Guus ok, to bad.
  463. Guus Anyways, there is a bit of background in the Trello card
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  465. ralphm Sure, but we discussed that last week?
  466. Guus In short: Peter is the only person that is authorized to manage our bank account.
  467. Guus It would be good to add a second person, in case something happens to Peter.
  468. Guus Peter came up with two solutions
  469. Guus (excuse the copy/paste)
  470. Guus 1. There is a manual form that someone can fill out to become a signer on the account, however that would not enable online banking access. My thought is that we could ask our long serving and highly reliable Secretary if he would do this.
  471. Guus 2. For online banking access, someone needs to show up in person. I could arrange this with Thomas Muldowney or Dave Smith (emeritus members of the XSF who live near me and are reliable people), so that they could step in on a temporary basis if needed.
  472. ralphm Let's do them one by one
  473. ralphm (because they're not exclusive)
  474. Guus I have had a chat with the Secretary (highly reliable) - he is willing.
  475. ralphm Solution #1
  476. ralphm I'm +1
  477. Guus +1
  478. MattJ +1
  479. Martin +1
  480. ralphm For the record, this is about Alexander Gnauck being additional signer.
  481. ralphm Ok, that's agreed.
  482. ralphm Then option 2.
  483. MattJ To be clear though, this would enable Alex to carry out what operations exactly? (does it 100% solve the original problem?)
  484. ralphm In case Peter would not be able to, Alex could perform operations on the bank account
  485. ralphm except, apparently, online banking
  486. Guus This would allow Alex to show up in person at the bank and act as it's owner/manager. It likely does not give him online banking privileges (unsure)
  487. ralphm Which is what Option 2 is about.
  488. Guus for me, it is a 100% solution to the problem of us loosing all bank account access, in case of Peter becoming unavailable.
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  490. Guus (worst case, we need to stick him in a plane).
  491. ralphm right
  492. MattJ Alright
  493. Guus As for #2, I'm -1.
  494. MattJ Works for me
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  496. ralphm So you are saying that we wouldn't need to add someone for just the online banking access.
  497. Guus ralphm: I don't believe we do - certainly not to resolve the 'bus factor' issue.
  498. ralphm With no other directors in the US, this would need to be somebody else. I have no objections to Peter's suggestions, but I can understand if you do.
  499. Guus It's not a personal matter regarding the persons that were put forward by Peter, by the way. I just like, in general, to limit the access to our bank account. I thnk that's even more important when people do not have an affiliation with the XSF any more.
  500. MattJ I'm on the fence about this one
  501. MattJ Ideally I think we ought to be in the position where someone has online access (other than Peter), but I also feel it's awkward if that person is not actively involved with the XSF
  502. Guus as far as I'm concerned, we're only tackling the issue of Peter becoming permanently unavailable here. I do not interpret this issue as 'lightening the load' for Peter. I think no such request came from Peter, and I don't see a need to be able to speed up bank account-related business.
  503. MattJ It's nothing to do with trust, but practicality
  504. ralphm Arguably they do have an affiliation (as emeritus member, which is a recognised affiliation described in our bylaws), but I get your feeling.
  505. ralphm Guus: indeed
  506. Martin I agree with Guus
  507. ralphm Ok, so #2 is rejected.
  508. MattJ wfm
  509. Guus Did we drop the name of Alex? He's here.
  510. Guus 'alex'
  511. Guus (tag, you're it.)
  512. ralphm The Board asks the Treasurer to add Alexander Gnauck as an additional signer to our bank account.
  513. ralphm 3. Financing
  514. ralphm Guus: did you also happen to touch upon this with Peter?
  515. Guus No, I dropped the ball on that one.
  516. Guus I'll get to it before our next meet.
  517. ralphm Splendid.
  518. Alex ya, I am here, just reading
  519. ralphm Alex: thanks
  520. ralphm Maybe we should start next meeting with this item.
  521. Guus the finance item, that is?
  522. Guus works for me.
  523. MattJ +1
  524. ralphm 4. Membership survey
  525. ralphm MattJ, it looks like your name is on this.
  526. MattJ Yeah. I wrote up my notes last week and I think I was going to send them out with the minutes but forgot both
  527. MattJ I sent an email earlier today, so maybe we can discuss it next week if there's remaining time (unless you all had a chance to review already)
  528. Guus The draft that you sent earlier today looks fine for me (maybe make a nice Google Form out of it). One question: how exactly are we going to process the responses into action for board?
  529. MattJ or just reply with feedback on the list and maybe I can iterate on it ahead of next week
  530. MattJ Guus, yeah, I was thinking of Google Forms
  531. ralphm I think Google Form is a good idea, works quite well for our dinner signups
  532. ralphm Ok, comments on list.
  533. MattJ I think we can just go over the responses during a meeting - I'd be happy to take on the task of providing a summary
  534. ralphm aye
  535. Guus ok
  536. MattJ I mean, discuss what actions, if any, come from the responses
  537. ralphm sure
  538. ralphm 5. AOB
  539. ralphm anything?
  540. Guus Can we clean up the right-most lane of Trello a bit?
  541. ralphm Oh, right, that scrolled out of view
  542. Guus I think two cards can be archived?
  543. Guus and perhaps put the remaining one on a todo list again?
  544. ralphm We need to discuss what to do with the role of Executive Director in general. Peter was not convinced we need one, but it is an official role defined in our Bylaws.
  545. ralphm Let's put that on for after the Financing discussion
  546. Guus I'm happy to discuss that. Let's put it on the agenda.
  547. Guus ok
  548. MattJ I think the only thing blocking a proper search is defining the requirements of the role
  549. ralphm Indeed
  550. ralphm ok
  551. MattJ which is something we should be able to do
  552. ralphm The survey item is already covered
  553. ralphm and the priorities card can be archived, I think, given the above.
  554. ralphm makes sense?
  555. Guus yes
  556. Guus my thoughts exactly, but didn't want to act on my own.
  557. MattJ +1
  558. Martin Makes sense to me
  559. ralphm I think I'd summarize our priorities as "get our things back in order" (running this company) and afterwards we can rediscuss direction.
  560. MattJ +1
  561. ralphm All right.
  562. ralphm 6. Date of Next
  563. ralphm +1W
  564. Guus wfm.
  565. MattJ wfm
  566. ralphm 7. Close
  567. ralphm Thanks all!
  568. ralphm bangs gavel
  569. Martin Thanks ralphm
  570. MattJ Thanks
  571. Guus Thank you
  572. Guus that was nice and productive.
  573. ralphm set the topic to XSF Discussion | Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/ | Agenda https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings
  574. ralphm Guus: indeed!
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