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XSF Discussion | Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/ | Agenda https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings

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[09:20:37] <winfried> pep.: that is OK, we need a bit more structure to get 1.1e done
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[10:45:11] <lovetox> pep., what was the adress of the programming channel?
[10:45:45] <pep.> xmpp:programming@chat.cluxia.eu?join
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[10:48:19] <lovetox> its useless to argue for or about xmpp with people
[10:48:44] <lovetox> lets say you win all arguments and suddenly all people say ok XMPP is the best, now show me the clients
[10:49:03] <lovetox> and then you have a bunch of half assed clients that can only do everything a little bit
[10:49:47] <lovetox> what i want to say is, dev great clients, then you dont have to argue with anyone about what standard is the best
[10:49:52] <Zash> Unless you enjoy arguing, why bother?
[10:50:30] <Zash> More fun to work on improving the things :)
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[12:28:36] <Ge0rG> Damn, I love arguing. But not with potential users, developers of crappy and half assed xmpp software are a much better target.
[12:29:06] <Zash> Yeeees, steal time away from actually improving the things, eeeeexcellent.
[12:29:19] <Ge0rG> While we are at it...
lovetox, when will gajim stop cutting JIDs in half everywhere?
[12:30:03] <Maranda> 🤔
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[12:36:51] <lovetox> when i have time to rewrite the account creation wizard
[12:36:55] *Ge0rG will start promoting xmpp again when there is at least one decent desktop or web client and when prosody stops forgetting about push registered iOS devices
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[12:37:53] <Maranda> ... So between now and Ragnarok got it.
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[12:38:05] <Ge0rG> And by decent I mean one that's not a nightmare to configure and that's not eating my messages
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[12:38:40] <Ge0rG> But I know I have unrealistically high requirements
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[12:39:26] <Maranda> Ge0rG's requirements ®️
[12:39:34] <Zash> s/between now and/after/
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[12:40:07] <Zash> Vote Giant Comet 2018!
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[12:40:22] <Maranda> 🤣
[12:41:01] <Ge0rG> lovetox: please consider that as opposed to you, for a new user the account creation dialog is literally the first impression of your client
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