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XSF Discussion | Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/ | Agenda https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings

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[07:59:00] <pep.> I think it's a good thing they move to matrix. At least it's free software, assuming they release their own fork. It's a big blow to xmpp but we're not perfect either anyway
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[08:07:03] <Ge0rG> Awesome project: https://t2bot.io/voyager/
[08:08:13] <Ge0rG> We need a clone of that for xmpp: URIs
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[08:11:16] <pep.> That would be nice indeed
[08:12:04] <Ge0rG> I'm sure it would have indexed all ten MUCs very soon.
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[08:13:06] <pep.> sshhh
[08:13:43] <pep.> I'd like to volunteer but I'm not sure when I've got time in my schedule
[08:13:43] <Ge0rG> I wonder why nobody has derailed the HN thread yet to push the awesomeness of XMPP 🤔
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[08:28:27] <pep.> Wait, "adding features like Jitsi video conferencing, [..]", they use jitsi for their video conference?
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[08:30:57] <Ge0rG> pep.: that does make one wonder.
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[09:02:45] <ralphm> So XMPP signaling?
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[09:04:58] <Ge0rG> maybe only the oob things, and have http/rest/json for the signaling?
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[09:27:04] <MattJ> Ge0rG, https://search.wensley.org.uk/
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[09:27:46] <Ge0rG> MattJ: this is totally not what I was looking for. And it also looks like a 1996 myspace page.
[09:28:41] <Ge0rG> and it's using comic sans?
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[14:00:04] <jonasw> err
[14:00:06] <jonasw> fun question
[14:00:10] <jonasw> all those XMPP URL things
[14:00:18] <jonasw> do they properly escape things like "?" in the XMPP address? :)
[14:00:22] <Zash> Did you mean: URI?
[14:00:46] <jonasw> maybe
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[16:32:27] <Ge0rG> jonasw: yes
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[16:48:31] <nonfreepizza> hi hello I have a question about pubsub nodes addressed as JID's as described in XEP-0060, how does that work with the URI's?
[16:49:23] <nonfreepizza> is ";node=nodename" still needed in case the node is specified in JID
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[16:52:13] <Ge0rG> jonasw: correct quoting of the URI is a real challenge. I tried to find a middle ground in the invitation page
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[19:54:35] <jjrh> voyager bot is neat.
[19:56:59] <Maranda> voyager bot?
[19:58:00] <Wiktor> Maranda: matrix room walking bot
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[20:01:44] <jjrh> https://t2bot.io/voyager/
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[20:03:33] <Ge0rG> I've heard there is one for XMPP now.
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[20:05:07] <Wiktor> Ge0rG: the Comic Sans one?
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[20:07:07] <Ge0rG> Wiktor: no, a new bot that's hopping MUCs
[20:07:34] <Wiktor> oh, I see
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[20:14:37] <Maranda> like the one of wensley.org.uk?
[20:14:49] <Ge0rG> Still no.
[20:15:53] <Maranda> https://search.wensley.org.uk/chat/
[20:15:55] <Maranda> :P
[20:15:58] <Pat> Muchopper
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[20:17:30] <Ge0rG> Mine isn't listed.
[20:17:48] <Maranda> well there's even a MLP room
[20:17:52] <Maranda> hahahaha
[20:18:19] <Ge0rG> АНИМЕ. This looks so subtly wrong.
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[20:25:35] <nonfreepizza> ahnme
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