XSF Discussion - 2018-05-11


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  465. Ge0rG So the new ejabberd MUC avatars are breaking yaxim, because it parses the presence-from-MUC-bare-JID as a null-named participant. Sigh.
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  472. MattJ Why is the MUC sending presence?
  473. Zash Le wat
  474. jonasw MattJ, to push their vcard avatar hash
  475. MattJ That's silly
  476. Zash Hnnnnng
  477. jonasw MattJ, is it?
  478. Kev I imagine that's going to break various clients.
  479. jonasw I /think/ that folks checked before they started implementing that and most clients were fine
  480. MattJ I'm all for MUCs having avatars (I've implemented it in the past)
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  482. Zash Something in a message would probably work better wrt backwards compat
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  484. Kev jonasw: Ok, could be I'm wrong.
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  486. Zash Eg like the subject
  487. jonasw worst which happened in unmaintained clients was a ghost user
  488. jonasw (*some* maintained client broke *ahem*)
  489. Kev So it doesn't break clients. Other than those clients that it breaks? :)
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  503. SamWhited > There's a reason we so fanatically drive at this goal at Joyent, and it's not because we're smarter or better than anyone else. It's because we've been burned by invalid abstractions of our own doing so many times that we've programmed a Jabber bot to constantly berate us with reminders of how our hubris around abstractions led us to failure.
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  505. SamWhited Interesting little tidbit from a blog post; Joyent is using XMPP apparently.
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  507. SamWhited Or was in 2011 at least.
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  522. pep. Syndace, no issue if I package your omemo lib (+ deps) for Arch? :)
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  524. pep. Just on AUR for now, -git packages
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  537. Syndace pep.: Please go for it :)
  538. pep. how is the audit coming for https://github.com/Syndace/python-xeddsa :-°
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  545. pep. And *some* kind of testing would be nice
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