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XSF Discussion | Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/ | Agenda https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings

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[06:41:19] <jonasw> pep.: anyone can make a pr, it's the editors job to ensure that it's okay to merfe
[06:41:34] <jonasw> *merge
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[19:54:02] <marmistrz> Do you guys plan releasing some guide how to live with GDPR when hosting an XMPP server? I don't host one but if I did, I'd be confused, especially after hearing all these "GDPR harms XMPP hosts and centralizes the web" opinions.
[19:55:00] <Link Mauve> marmistrz, these are dumb, don’t listen to them.
[19:55:08] <Link Mauve> Also see https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/GDPR
[19:56:13] <marmistrz> So basically this wiki page will be eventually transformed into "all you should know about GDPR"
[19:56:14] <marmistrz> ?
[19:56:59] <Link Mauve> Probably.
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[19:57:45] <Link Mauve> You can also come to the GDPR meetings, in this room, at 11:00Z every Friday.
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[19:59:30] <pep.> hmm not every friday no
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[19:59:53] <pep.> next is Tue 10:30 CEST, let me see if the page is updated
[19:59:58] <Link Mauve> Oh.
[20:00:07] <pep.> But anyway it's never the same
[20:00:13] <Link Mauve> Ack.
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[20:03:45] <marmistrz> What was that Z in 11:00Z?
[20:04:05] <Zash> Zulu
[20:04:14] <pep.> means UTC
[20:04:22] <Zash> Aka the zero timezone
[20:04:43] <Zash> While GMT+1 is #1 ! :P
[20:04:48] <pep.> Not 10:30 CEST, 1030Z, I failed
[20:04:57] <pep.> 12:30 CEST.
[20:05:18] <Link Mauve> Zash, please never use GMT as a base timezone. :(
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[20:05:36] <Link Mauve> It doesn’t exist all year long.
[20:05:37] <Zash> Let's revive .Beat
[20:05:51] <marmistrz> I've always thought UTC=GMT
[20:06:02] <Link Mauve> marmistrz, it is, during winter.
[20:06:17] <Link Mauve> But one is a base timezone, the other one is UK and Portugal’s timezone.
[20:06:25] <Link Mauve> But one is a base timezone, the other one is UK and Portugal’s timezone during winter.
[20:06:27] <Zash> TAI tho
[20:06:34] <pep.> Link Mauve, hmm, you sure?
[20:06:35] <Link Mauve> But one is a base timezone, the other one is UK and Portugal’s timezone during winter (and maybe a few other ones).
[20:06:38] <Link Mauve> pep., yes.
[20:06:48] <marmistrz> UTC base, GMT UK+Port, right?
[20:06:49] <pep.> GMT is GMT, during summer UK is BST not GMT
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[20:07:09] <Link Mauve> pep., that’s what I said.
[20:07:16] <Link Mauve> marmistrz, correct.
[20:07:29] <pep.> But it doesn't change
[20:07:43] <pep.> does it
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[20:07:53] <Link Mauve> pep., no, it stops existing.
[20:08:00] <pep.> Right, nobody uses it
[20:08:08] <pep.> But it still equals UTC
[20:08:13] <Link Mauve> Only during winter.
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[20:08:40] <pep.> It doesn't "stop existing"
[20:08:58] <Link Mauve> It stops being used, so you can’t use it as a base anymore.
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[20:09:13] <Link Mauve> Tl;dr: always use UTC as a reference point.
[20:10:17] <pep.> That's not what I'm picking on
[20:10:32] <pep.> GMT still equals UTC
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[20:12:35] <Link Mauve> TIL, GMT equals to UT1, not UTC.
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[20:13:48] <pep.> interesting
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[20:15:07] <Andrew Nenakhov> Time is very complicated topic
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[20:15:49] <Zash> Andrew Nenakhov wins the "Understatement of the day" award
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[20:18:11] <Andrew Nenakhov> 🎉🎉🎉 🏆
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