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XSF Discussion | Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/ | Agenda https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings

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[09:43:00] <Andrew Nenakhov> I wonder how email providers are dealing with it
[09:43:56] <Andrew Nenakhov> I guess they just write some new clever terms of service and don't do anything they don't usually do
[09:44:33] <jonasw> https://posteo.de/en/site/privacy_policy
[09:44:41] <jonasw> that’s a privacy-friendly german email service
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[09:48:14] <Andrew Nenakhov> Glanced not too thoroughly, didn't see mentioning any sent email that user can delete
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[09:48:32] <Andrew Nenakhov> From other servers. Maybe they presume this to be stupid.
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[10:46:30] <muppeth> I think gdpr specifies that deletion can be done only if its possible. Obviously email sent cant be deleted. Gdpr seems to be logical about this stuff. So pretty much all you need to do is present that its not possible to delete
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[10:46:47] <muppeth> I think matrix went the email route regarding deletion
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[11:00:35] <muppeth> Just like you cant request post office to destroy all mails you ever sent.
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[12:13:31] <Ge0rG> Matrix went the "OMG you'll be blocked if you don't consent" route
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[12:17:12] <winfried> Ge0rG: Too bad
[12:17:40] <Ge0rG> And they don't even have finished their ToS
[12:17:43] <Zash> They bought into the FUD?
[12:18:07] <Ge0rG> Maybe they are evil data collectors?
[12:19:02] <Zash> How does the right to be forgotten work with their distributed blockchain graph database? :)
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[12:20:13] <Ge0rG> Zash: how does it work with MUC MAM?
[12:21:49] <Zash> Something something public forum
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[13:07:24] <vanitasvitae> I like how much more active the xmpp subreddit appears after the last summit :)
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[13:17:37] <vanitasvitae> s/after/since :)
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