XSF logo XSF Discussion - 2018-06-03


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  133. edhelas I don't understand the latest PR on MUC
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  135. edhelas https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/653 this one
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  163. MattJ edhelas: you know what voice requests are?
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  166. jonasw Zash, I do that, the threshold is 1
  167. edhelas MattJ no
  168. jonasw Zash, yeah, that’s a new issue (with the XEP HTML not reactiong to Pgup/Pgdown/Home/End in firefox)
  169. MattJ edhelas: in moderated rooms people cannot write messages unless they have the participant role
  170. MattJ And this feature is a way for someone who cannot talk in the room to request that a moderator updates their role so they can talk
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  172. jonasw note that the protocol flow is already specified. clients do not have a way to know whether the service supports that protocol flow though
  173. MattJ Very old but moderated rooms have never been that popular on XMPP so I don't think many clients implement the feature because it hasn't been needed
  174. jonasw and since it’s based on <message/>, it’s not trivial for clients to know whether the server supports the protocol even on opportunistically sending a request
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  181. edhelas MattJ :)
  182. edhelas thanks for the explanation
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  184. edhelas I'd like to do a PR to expose the access model of Pubsub node through the metadata, just wondering what you though about it
  185. MattJ edhelas: through disco?
  186. edhelas yes
  187. MattJ Isn't that already done?
  188. edhelas no, or I didn't saw the change
  189. edhelas but it could be really useful for me to know that in advance, then I can show it in the UI
  190. MattJ "If meta-data is provided, it SHOULD include values for all configured options as well as "automatic" information such as the node creation date, a list of publishers, and the like."
  191. edhelas ok I'll tell that to the ejabberd guys :p
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  263. jonasw now’s one of the rare occasions where I wish that resource locking was still en vogue :)
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  265. Zash ENOCTX
  266. jonasw writing a component which proxies several JIDs behind a single one
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  270. ralphm Why wouldn't the component be able to map this to fixed resources?
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  272. ralphm Oh, you mean for keeping conversations locked
  273. jonasw ralphm, yeah
  274. jonasw but messages aren’t important for my use-case anyways
  275. ralphm What is the use case?
  276. ralphm Not something like customer support agents
  277. jonasw nah. it’s a service which runs as a client
  278. jonasw which answers IQ requests
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  280. jonasw but to know the resource to send to, users would normally need to subscribe to presence from the service, which I don’t want (useless overhead, because the resource doesn’t really matter)
  281. jonasw so I’m building a component which proxies that client and translates IQs sent to its bare JID to any of the currently online client resources
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  296. edhelas is https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0312.html deprecated by MAM ?
  297. ralphm Possibly, yes
  298. edhelas okay :)
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  381. flow jonasw, why not stuff the functionality into the component and get rid of the proxying?
  382. jonasw flow, aioxmpp can’t into components and I don’t want to do that in lua
  383. jonasw also, bonus for possible load balancing
  384. Zash Mmmmmmod_component_roundrobin?
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  386. Zash Or like s2s-level load balancing
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  394. flow jonasw, and using a fixed resource?
  395. Zash A round-robin bare-jid forking mode would have been kinda useful
  396. jonasw flow, can’t rely on that
  397. flow jonasw, why not?
  398. jonasw servers may override and such ;-
  399. flow Zash, like xep354?
  400. Zash flow: Yeah
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  428. flow jonasw, I wouldn't consider that a practical problem
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  447. Zash When you have room locking in MUC, what's sensible behaviour if it remains locked?
  448. jonasw hmm, timeout?
  449. Zash The current stable branch of Prosody has room locking (disabled by default) where rooms are destroyed if they remain locked for 5 minutes.
  450. Zash The development version simply unlocks them.
  451. jonasw that (unlocking) sounds better
  452. Zash Indeed.
  453. Zash Hm, maybe it should send a "privacy related config change" status code at that point.
  454. jonasw seems good
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  458. jonasw goffi, since you asked: https://muclumbus.jabbercat.org/docs/api#xmpp
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  469. Guus A question to the French speaking occupants of this room: when a French person writes me in English: "I'm in the show this week", can we deduce what the original meaning was? The person attempted to convey that they were indisposed - but no actual show (theater, circus, etc) was involved, as far as I can tell.
  470. Guus I'm wondering if this is a literal translation of a French proverb.
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  498. edhelas looks like a bad translation to me, for me it's saying "I'm trendy this week" but I'm maybe wrong
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