XSF logo XSF Discussion - 2018-06-12


  1. j.r has joined
  2. rainslide has left
  3. Ge0rG has left
  4. mimi89999 has left
  5. Lance has left
  6. alexis has left
  7. alexis has joined
  8. Lance has joined
  9. efrit has left
  10. dos has left
  11. alexis has joined
  12. j.r has joined
  13. j.r has joined
  14. rainslide has joined
  15. rainslide has left
  16. la|r|ma has left
  17. lskdjf has joined
  18. jjrh has left
  19. la|r|ma has left
  20. rainslide has joined
  21. anjan has joined
  22. tux has joined
  23. rainslide has left
  24. rainslide has joined
  25. daniel has left
  26. daniel has joined
  27. rishiraj22 has left
  28. rishiraj22 has joined
  29. rishiraj22 has left
  30. rishiraj22 has joined
  31. alexis has left
  32. alexis has joined
  33. rainslide has left
  34. anjan has joined
  35. anjan has joined
  36. labdsf has left
  37. anjan has joined
  38. rainslide has joined
  39. anjan has joined
  40. rainslide has left
  41. rainslide has joined
  42. rainslide has left
  43. Lance has left
  44. rishiraj22 has left
  45. rishiraj22 has joined
  46. rishiraj22 has left
  47. rishiraj22 has joined
  48. anjan has joined
  49. rion has joined
  50. rion has left
  51. rion has joined
  52. j.r has joined
  53. alexis has left
  54. alexis has joined
  55. alexis has left
  56. rishiraj22 has left
  57. alexis has joined
  58. alexis has left
  59. alexis has joined
  60. rion has left
  61. rion has joined
  62. rion has left
  63. rion has joined
  64. rishiraj22 has left
  65. Yagiza has joined
  66. lorddavidiii has joined
  67. j.r has joined
  68. rishiraj22 has left
  69. rion has left
  70. rishiraj22 has left
  71. lnj has joined
  72. efrit has joined
  73. alexis has left
  74. alexis has joined
  75. marc has left
  76. Nekit has joined
  77. rishiraj22 has left
  78. j.r has joined
  79. j.r has joined
  80. rishiraj22 has left
  81. rishiraj22 has left
  82. rishiraj22 has joined
  83. alexis has joined
  84. rion has joined
  85. rishiraj22 has left
  86. rishiraj22 has joined
  87. rishiraj22 has left
  88. rishiraj22 has joined
  89. alacer has left
  90. alacer has joined
  91. rishiraj22 has left
  92. valo has joined
  93. rishiraj22 has left
  94. rainslide has joined
  95. rishiraj22 has left
  96. rishiraj22 has left
  97. valo has left
  98. rishiraj22 has left
  99. valo has joined
  100. alexis has left
  101. rishiraj22 has left
  102. alexis has joined
  103. ta has joined
  104. rainslide has left
  105. lnj has left
  106. lnj has joined
  107. valo has left
  108. valo has joined
  109. rishiraj22 has left
  110. rtq3 has joined
  111. rtq3 has left
  112. rtq3 has joined
  113. efrit has left
  114. efrit has joined
  115. j.r has left
  116. j.r has joined
  117. Guus has left
  118. Guus has left
  119. Guus has left
  120. Guus has left
  121. Guus has joined
  122. ta has joined
  123. efrit has left
  124. efrit has joined
  125. Tobias has left
  126. Tobias has joined
  127. alexis has left
  128. alexis has joined
  129. Yagiza has left
  130. Guus has left
  131. Guus has left
  132. Guus has left
  133. Guus has left
  134. jubalh has joined
  135. rishiraj22 has left
  136. Guus has left
  137. alexis has left
  138. alexis has joined
  139. ta has joined
  140. Guus has left
  141. Guus has left
  142. Guus has left
  143. Guus has joined
  144. alacer has left
  145. Dave Cridland has left
  146. alexis has joined
  147. marmistrz has left
  148. alacer has joined
  149. andy has joined
  150. rishiraj22 has left
  151. Yagiza has joined
  152. alacer has left
  153. alacer has joined
  154. alacer has left
  155. alacer has joined
  156. jubalh has joined
  157. Nekit has joined
  158. alexis has left
  159. alexis has joined
  160. rishiraj22 has left
  161. Nekit has joined
  162. alexis has left
  163. alexis has joined
  164. alexis has left
  165. goffi has joined
  166. ta has left
  167. alacer has left
  168. alexis has joined
  169. j.r has joined
  170. alexis has left
  171. alexis has joined
  172. rtq3 has left
  173. rtq3 has joined
  174. alacer has joined
  175. Dave Cridland has left
  176. Dave Cridland has joined
  177. ta has joined
  178. Syndace has left
  179. Syndace has joined
  180. alexis has left
  181. alexis has joined
  182. SaltyBones has left
  183. anjan has joined
  184. SaltyBones has left
  185. Dave Cridland has left
  186. Dave Cridland has joined
  187. alexis has left
  188. alexis has joined
  189. marmistrz has left
  190. ralphm has joined
  191. rishiraj22 has left
  192. alacer has left
  193. rtq3 has left
  194. SaltyBones has joined
  195. jere has joined
  196. alacer has joined
  197. Syndace has left
  198. Syndace has joined
  199. jubalh has joined
  200. alacer has left
  201. alacer has joined
  202. rion has left
  203. Dave Cridland has left
  204. Dave Cridland has joined
  205. Dave Cridland has left
  206. Dave Cridland has left
  207. Dave Cridland has joined
  208. j.r has joined
  209. alacer has left
  210. alacer has joined
  211. Dave Cridland has left
  212. Dave Cridland has joined
  213. Dave Cridland has left
  214. Dave Cridland has joined
  215. lnj has left
  216. ta has joined
  217. moparisthebest has joined
  218. moparisthebest has joined
  219. Valerian has joined
  220. rishiraj22 has left
  221. Valerian has left
  222. Valerian has joined
  223. Chobbes has left
  224. Chobbes has joined
  225. goffi has left
  226. Valerian has left
  227. Valerian has joined
  228. goffi has joined
  229. ralphm has left
  230. Ge0rG https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2018/01/detecting_drone.html another nail in the coffin of stream compression. I totally missed that back in January
  231. jonasw awesome
  232. jonasw can we use that to decrypt and de-DRM HDMI streams?
  233. Andrew Nenakhov "In other words, they can see what the drone sees," - seems like total bullshit
  234. Andrew Nenakhov They can detect patterns within compressed stream (idle/rapidly changing), not the stream itself.
  235. rishiraj22 has left
  236. Andrew Nenakhov has left
  237. Andrew Nenakhov has joined
  238. ralphm has joined
  239. Andrew Nenakhov has left
  240. Andrew Nenakhov has joined
  241. Dave Cridland has left
  242. alacer has left
  243. Dave Cridland has joined
  244. rishiraj22 has left
  245. ThibG has left
  246. ThibG has joined
  247. rishiraj22 has left
  248. rishiraj22 has left
  249. rainslide has joined
  250. anjan has joined
  251. Yagiza has left
  252. Yagiza has joined
  253. rainslide has left
  254. Valerian has left
  255. rainslide has joined
  256. Valerian has joined
  257. lnj has joined
  258. rishiraj22 has left
  259. rishiraj22 has left
  260. Dave Cridland has left
  261. rishiraj22 has left
  262. Dave Cridland has joined
  263. rainslide has left
  264. Valerian has left
  265. Valerian has joined
  266. la|r|ma has joined
  267. lskdjf has joined
  268. Valerian has left
  269. Valerian has joined
  270. rishiraj22 has left
  271. rtq3 has joined
  272. alacer has joined
  273. alexis has left
  274. alexis has joined
  275. Yagiza has left
  276. rishiraj22 has left
  277. Dave Cridland has left
  278. Dave Cridland has joined
  279. alacer has left
  280. alacer has joined
  281. vanitasvitae has left
  282. alacer has left
  283. alacer has joined
  284. marmistrz has left
  285. rishiraj22 has left
  286. SaltyBones has left
  287. alacer has left
  288. ThibG has left
  289. ThibG has joined
  290. rishiraj22 has left
  291. jubalh has joined
  292. rishiraj22 has left
  293. rishiraj22 has left
  294. rtq3 has left
  295. rishiraj22 has left
  296. lumi has joined
  297. Valerian has left
  298. la|r|ma has joined
  299. la|r|ma has joined
  300. Valerian has joined
  301. la|r|ma has joined
  302. la|r|ma has joined
  303. la|r|ma has joined
  304. la|r|ma has joined
  305. la|r|ma has joined
  306. la|r|ma has joined
  307. la|r|ma has left
  308. la|r|ma has joined
  309. Zash has left
  310. marmistrz has joined
  311. tux has left
  312. rtq3 has joined
  313. alacer has joined
  314. lnj has left
  315. Valerian has left
  316. rishiraj22 has left
  317. rishiraj22 has left
  318. rishiraj22 has left
  319. labdsf TLDR: If you suspect that drone is filming you, move rapidly and see if it transmits more
  320. rishiraj22 has left
  321. rishiraj22 has left
  322. Yagiza has left
  323. rishiraj22 has left
  324. rishiraj22 has joined
  325. Andrew Nenakhov has left
  326. Andrew Nenakhov has joined
  327. rishiraj22 has left
  328. rishiraj22 has joined
  329. Andrew Nenakhov has left
  330. Andrew Nenakhov has joined
  331. Andrew Nenakhov has left
  332. Neustradamus has left
  333. Andrew Nenakhov has joined
  334. la|r|ma has left
  335. rishiraj22 has left
  336. rishiraj22 has joined
  337. lskdjf has joined
  338. rishiraj22 has left
  339. Andrew Nenakhov has left
  340. Andrew Nenakhov has joined
  341. rion has joined
  342. Valerian has joined
  343. rtq3 has left
  344. rtq3 has joined
  345. rtq3 has left
  346. rtq3 has joined
  347. Tobias has left
  348. rishiraj22 has joined
  349. rishiraj22 has left
  350. rishiraj22 has joined
  351. Tobias has joined
  352. la|r|ma has joined
  353. la|r|ma has joined
  354. la|r|ma has joined
  355. la|r|ma has joined
  356. la|r|ma has joined
  357. labdsf daniel, why do you say Conversations resources are not permanent?
  358. la|r|ma has joined
  359. la|r|ma has joined
  360. labdsf when are they changed?
  361. la|r|ma has joined
  362. la|r|ma has joined
  363. la|r|ma has joined
  364. la|r|ma has joined
  365. la|r|ma has joined
  366. rishiraj22 has left
  367. rishiraj22 has joined
  368. la|r|ma has joined
  369. la|r|ma has joined
  370. labdsf I am thinking about how to fix it in Gajim and it seems just writing permanent resource in config is not a good idea, because configs may be synchronized
  371. la|r|ma has joined
  372. la|r|ma has joined
  373. rishiraj22 has left
  374. rishiraj22 has joined
  375. la|r|ma has joined
  376. daniel labdsf: when a server provides me with a different one or if I'm logged out because of duplicate resource or not permitted to bind
  377. la|r|ma has joined
  378. la|r|ma has joined
  379. la|r|ma has joined
  380. la|r|ma has joined
  381. labdsf that seems like a solution, thanks
  382. la|r|ma has joined
  383. la|r|ma has joined
  384. labdsf just regenerate resource if it is duplicate
  385. la|r|ma has joined
  386. jonasw yupp
  387. la|r|ma has joined
  388. la|r|ma has joined
  389. la|r|ma has joined
  390. la|r|ma has joined
  391. la|r|ma has left
  392. Ge0rG Except that a *sane* server will assume that the second bind is the same client, coming from a network change, and kill the old session.
  393. lumi has joined
  394. daniel I've seen plenty of server that will prevent your bind
  395. daniel Jabberd maybe?
  396. rtq3 has left
  397. Ge0rG daniel: yes, there are some servers that do that. No, it doesn't make it a good idea.
  398. dos has joined
  399. SaltyBones has left
  400. daniel i think there is also an ejabberd config that will just give you a new random resource
  401. marmistrz has joined
  402. rishiraj22 has left
  403. rishiraj22 has joined
  404. daniel at least i have seen that behaviour in the wild
  405. Ge0rG there is also a prosody module for that.
  406. Ge0rG In the Age Of MAM, this is not as bad as it used to be.
  407. MattJ FWIW although I now favour clients requesting per-client static resources, I didn't mention what the server actually assigns them :)
  408. daniel is "there is a prosody module for that" the new "the simpsons did it"?
  409. Zash Old tho
  410. Ge0rG MattJ: I'm interested in how you imagine the whole process to play out, then.
  411. MattJ Is there any more to it than that?
  412. rishiraj22 has left
  413. rishiraj22 has joined
  414. rishiraj22 has left
  415. rishiraj22 has joined
  416. MattJ Client should request a resource of <some installation-unique string>, it doesn't need to be what the server actually uses as the public resource for that session
  417. Ge0rG MattJ: so you do assign another resource to the client? Do you expect the client to request the newly-assigned resource on next connection then? And re-assign again?
  418. Zash has left
  419. MattJ No, why would it do that?
  420. MattJ I expect the client to always request the same resource
  421. rishiraj22 has left
  422. rishiraj22 has joined
  423. Neustradamus has left
  424. jonasw MattJ, if the server gives me a different resource in the bind response, I think I’ll use that resource from then onwards ...
  425. MattJ Why?
  426. Ge0rG See, you don't even have a coherent image of your idea.
  427. MattJ Consider that the server's logic (as it typically is today) when that happens is "override the client's resource with a random one"
  428. Ge0rG Why should that be a good idea, again?
  429. MattJ Requesting the one the server assigns you will just get you a new different random one?
  430. MattJ s/?$//
  431. MattJ so why would you bother? Just request the one you want
  432. jonasw MattJ, yeah, in that case, it doesn’t matter whether I try my configured resource all over again
  433. Neustradamus has joined
  434. jonasw but if a server allows me to stay consistent, I can have that
  435. jonasw hm
  436. jonasw I kinda see your point
  437. Ge0rG I don't.
  438. MattJ If the server overrides your resource once, it will again :)
  439. jonasw why go through the hassle of updating the stored resource when it won’t work anyways
  440. Ge0rG It *could* work if the server had a list of well-known resources for that account, and checked that for matches.
  441. Ge0rG It needs that list anyway to kill your stale session on a reconnect.
  442. Neustradamus has joined
  443. lskdjf has joined
  444. Ge0rG You know, like above: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
  445. MattJ It makes no sense to me that a client would store the resource beyond the lifetime of a single session
  446. jonasw MattJ, yeah, nevermind on that one
  447. MattJ Ge0rG, that old thing :)
  448. jonasw re-rolling a new resource on <conflict/> makes sense though
  449. Ge0rG except that <conflict/> doesn't make sense.
  450. jonasw why not?
  451. jonasw Ge0rG, if somebody copied their JabberCat config to a new machine and they connect it while the other machine is connected too, I get a <conflict/>
  452. jonasw I need to handel that and re-roll the resource
  453. Ge0rG jonasw: wait, your *old* session gets a conflict?
  454. jonasw yes
  455. Ge0rG Aaah!
  456. jonasw (it doesn’t matter though)
  457. Ge0rG got enlightened now.
  458. jonasw (even if the new session gets a conflict)
  459. rishiraj22 has left
  460. Ge0rG jonasw: it does make a difference.
  461. jonasw (A server could for example decide to let the new session conflict if it received a ping-pong just now)
  462. Ge0rG jonasw: if your *new* session gets a conflict, it might be because the server still hangs on your old session.
  463. Ge0rG but it's dead for all practical matters.
  464. jonasw sure, but what am I supposed to do?
  465. jonasw not connect until that session dies?
  466. Ge0rG call the server hotline
  467. jonasw or roll a new resource and be able to connect?
  468. Ge0rG Hmm.... hide the error or show the error.
  469. rishiraj22 has joined
  470. jonasw tricky question indeed
  471. Ge0rG Somebody should re-do https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/XMPP_IM_Client_Design_Guidelines#Do_not_to_encode_any_semantics_into_the_resource.2C_let_the_server_generate_a_resource_for_you
  472. rishiraj22 has left
  473. rishiraj22 has joined
  474. mimi89999 has left
  475. rishiraj22 has left
  476. alexis has left
  477. Syndace has joined
  478. Syndace has joined
  479. rion has left
  480. rion has joined
  481. alexis has joined
  482. nyco has left
  483. nyco has joined
  484. goffi Ge0rG: I think I've actually followed this page, and today people have a different song
  485. Ge0rG goffi: I have hated that section, with a passion, for a long time.
  486. Ge0rG But I'm not here for wiki editing wars, so I always hoped the original author would become convinced and change it.
  487. jonasw Ge0rG, modify it!
  488. goffi that's why a XEP (or better a new version of the RFC) should be clear on the subject.
  489. jonasw who is the origina lauthor
  490. Ge0rG I thought it was MattJ, but it looks like not.
  491. waqas has left
  492. goffi with a XEP there is a debate on standard, and council will arbitrate if there is any conflict.
  493. Ge0rG goffi: there was a debate on standards, and we went home with multiple strong opinions.
  494. alexis has joined
  495. jonasw *.xmpp *.split
  496. goffi so can somebody write some official proposal? As a client dev I don't really care which way is chosen to generate resource, but I would like to have a clear way and if possible some rationale to explain why.
  497. Ge0rG I think jonasw volunteers for that 😁
  498. Andrew Nenakhov has joined
  499. Ge0rG goffi: the XSF traditionally isn't very strong at putting the rationale for protocols into its protocol specifications, and this one is 95% rationale.
  500. rion has left
  501. rion has joined
  502. jonasw Ge0rG, EBUSY
  503. goffi well the important is not the tradition here, the important is to simplify life for everybody. And I don't think it worth spending time and energy to know how to generate resource
  504. Ge0rG goffi: the point is: this is not protocol, this is best-practices.
  505. goffi there are several XEPS for best practice already
  506. Ge0rG so it might be a good informational XEP indeed.
  507. goffi yep
  508. jere has joined
  509. rishiraj22 has joined
  510. Ge0rG but then, as there is no consensus, and there are conflicting opinions, it's hard.
  511. goffi **on beatles music** All we need is specs, tadalala
  512. Zash has left
  513. goffi Ge0rG: the council is here to arbitrate once all opinions have been exposed.
  514. rishiraj22 has left
  515. rishiraj22 has joined
  516. Ge0rG goffi: what if the conflict is among council members?
  517. goffi well let's solve problem when they come?
  518. Neustradamus has left
  519. Neustradamus has joined
  520. Ge0rG https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/XEP-Remarks/XEP-0045:_Multi-User_Chat#Matching_Your_Reflected_Message would also make a great informational XEP
  521. Ge0rG And https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/XEP-Remarks/XEP-0045:_Multi-User_Chat#Am_I_still_there.3F as well
  522. blabla has left
  523. Neustradamus has left
  524. Neustradamus has joined
  525. Ge0rG Also somebody should walk the wiki for all ML references made before 2016 and update the links
  526. rishiraj22 has left
  527. rishiraj22 has joined
  528. rishiraj22 has left
  529. rishiraj22 has joined
  530. flow It may already help if a wiki page would list all competing proposals regarding resource handling. we may find out that there is in fact a way to reach consensus. (I thought we have consensus FWIW)
  531. Ge0rG there is bind2.
  532. Ge0rG And there is Zuul.
  533. flow Zuul?
  534. Ge0rG There is no Dana, only Zuul!
  535. vanitasvitae has left
  536. rishiraj22 has left
  537. rishiraj22 has joined
  538. Wiktor hehe, and the hidden Mozilla egg: http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul
  539. vanitasvitae has joined
  540. rishiraj22 has left
  541. rishiraj22 has joined
  542. rishiraj22 has left
  543. rishiraj22 has joined
  544. j.r has joined
  545. j.r has joined
  546. rishiraj22 has left
  547. rishiraj22 has joined
  548. rishiraj22 has left
  549. rishiraj22 has joined
  550. SaltyBones has left
  551. rishiraj22 has left
  552. rishiraj22 has left
  553. rtq3 has joined
  554. Nekit has left
  555. labdsf has left
  556. rishiraj22 has left
  557. alexis has left
  558. alexis has joined
  559. alexis has left
  560. tux has joined
  561. alexis has joined
  562. Valerian has left
  563. rishiraj22 has left
  564. Andrew Nenakhov has left
  565. jubalh has joined
  566. jubalh has joined
  567. Wiktor has joined
  568. Valerian has joined
  569. marmistrz has joined
  570. labdsf has left
  571. marmistrz has joined
  572. Zash has left
  573. moparisthebest has left
  574. SaltyBones has left
  575. Andrew Nenakhov has joined
  576. mimi89999 has joined
  577. rishiraj22 has left
  578. labdsf has left
  579. Andrew Nenakhov has left
  580. Andrew Nenakhov has joined
  581. labdsf has left
  582. dos has left
  583. dos has joined
  584. rishiraj22 has left
  585. marmistrz has joined
  586. rishiraj22 has left
  587. rishiraj22 has joined
  588. Andrew Nenakhov has left
  589. Andrew Nenakhov has joined
  590. Yagiza has left
  591. Yagiza has joined
  592. rishiraj22 has left
  593. andy has left
  594. Andrew Nenakhov has joined
  595. rishiraj22 has left
  596. rishiraj22 has left
  597. lnj has left
  598. Andrew Nenakhov has left
  599. rishiraj22 has left
  600. Andrew Nenakhov has joined
  601. blabla has joined
  602. jubalh has joined
  603. blabla has left
  604. blabla has joined
  605. vanitasvitae has left
  606. Andrew Nenakhov has left
  607. Andrew Nenakhov has joined
  608. vanitasvitae has left
  609. SaltyBones has left
  610. Zash has left
  611. mrdoctorwho has joined
  612. SamWhited has left
  613. SamWhited has joined
  614. Zash has left
  615. rishiraj22 has left
  616. ThibG has joined
  617. Zash has left
  618. ThibG has joined
  619. marmistrz has joined
  620. rishiraj22 has left
  621. rishiraj22 has left
  622. Valerian has left
  623. Valerian has joined
  624. Valerian has left
  625. Valerian has joined
  626. Valerian has left
  627. Valerian has joined
  628. Valerian has left
  629. Valerian has joined
  630. Guus has left
  631. Valerian has left
  632. rishiraj22 has left
  633. daniel has left
  634. jubalh has joined
  635. Ge0rG has joined
  636. Valerian has joined
  637. Guus has left
  638. lumi has joined
  639. jubalh has joined
  640. fippo https://twitter.com/w3cdevs/status/1006544269149077504 -- might be relevant for some european folks here
  641. rishiraj22 has left
  642. Ge0rG Yes, let's get some money to create more APIs to track web victims.
  643. fippo heh :-)
  644. rishiraj22 has left
  645. daniel has left
  646. Guus has left
  647. rishiraj22 has left
  648. rishiraj22 has left
  649. alexis has left
  650. Andrew Nenakhov has left
  651. Andrew Nenakhov has joined
  652. Guus has left
  653. Valerian has left
  654. Valerian has joined
  655. Andrew Nenakhov has joined
  656. labdsf has left
  657. kasper.dement has left
  658. kasper.dement has joined
  659. Lance has joined
  660. Andrew Nenakhov has left
  661. Andrew Nenakhov has joined
  662. rishiraj22 has left
  663. Guus has left
  664. Guus has left
  665. Guus has left
  666. Guus has left
  667. Guus has joined
  668. rishiraj22 has left
  669. Guus has left
  670. Guus has left
  671. Guus has left
  672. Guus has left
  673. Guus has joined
  674. marmistrz has joined
  675. jubalh has joined
  676. Andrew Nenakhov has left
  677. ralphm has left
  678. rishiraj22 has left
  679. labdsf has left
  680. rishiraj22 has left
  681. goffi has left
  682. winfried has joined
  683. winfried has joined
  684. vanitasvitae has left
  685. labdsf Ge0rG, I have found your slides btw: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Georg%27s_Talk_on_Message_routing
  686. jubalh has left
  687. Ge0rG has left
  688. marmistrz has joined
  689. Ge0rG labdsf: yay! Feel free to give feedback
  690. Ge0rG Or to feel embarrassed about it
  691. labdsf via https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/8971
  692. vanitasvitae has left
  693. jubalh has joined
  694. ralphm has joined
  695. Tobias has left
  696. Ge0rG Am I supposed to defend my position in there?
  697. Ge0rG 6121 also doesn't know about carbons, MAM, and four hundred other protocol extensions
  698. Guus has left
  699. Kev has left
  700. jubalh has joined
  701. Guus has left
  702. Guus has left
  703. Guus has left
  704. Valerian has left
  705. Valerian has joined
  706. Valerian has left
  707. vanitasvitae has left
  708. Tobias has joined
  709. jjrh has left
  710. vanitasvitae has left
  711. Guus has left
  712. Guus has left
  713. vanitasvitae has left
  714. tux has joined
  715. andy has joined
  716. vanitasvitae has left
  717. vanitasvitae has left
  718. Chobbes has joined
  719. Guus has left
  720. marmistrz has left
  721. vanitasvitae has left
  722. SaltyBones has left
  723. rishiraj22 has left
  724. vanitasvitae has left
  725. ta has joined
  726. vanitasvitae has left
  727. alexis has joined
  728. alacer has left
  729. Andrew Nenakhov has joined
  730. alacer has joined
  731. rishiraj22 has left
  732. ta has left
  733. alexis has left
  734. vanitasvitae has left
  735. alexis has joined
  736. Andrew Nenakhov has left
  737. vanitasvitae has left
  738. vanitasvitae has left
  739. vanitasvitae has left
  740. Andrew Nenakhov has joined
  741. rishiraj22 has left
  742. jubalh has joined
  743. jjrh has left
  744. vanitasvitae has left
  745. Yagiza has left
  746. Andrew Nenakhov has left
  747. Andrew Nenakhov has joined
  748. kasper.dement has left
  749. rishiraj22 has left
  750. rishiraj22 has left
  751. Lance has left
  752. rtq3 has left
  753. labdsf has left
  754. labdsf has left
  755. Guus has left
  756. Guus has left
  757. Guus has joined
  758. winfried has joined
  759. rishiraj22 has left
  760. marc has left
  761. winfried has left
  762. labdsf has left
  763. labdsf has left
  764. jubalh has joined
  765. Ge0rG has left
  766. Dave Cridland has left
  767. Dave Cridland has left
  768. winfried has left
  769. Dave Cridland has left
  770. kasper.dement has joined
  771. Dave Cridland has left
  772. jjrh has left
  773. Dave Cridland has left
  774. Dave Cridland has left
  775. Kev has left
  776. Dave Cridland has left
  777. rishiraj22 has left
  778. labdsf Persistent resources in Gajim seem to be already fixed, just need to wait for it to hit the repos, closed the bug: https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9193
  779. daniel has left
  780. daniel has joined
  781. labdsf cloned the master, started testing and found that it wrote the random part into config
  782. Chobbes has joined
  783. labdsf has left
  784. labdsf has left
  785. labdsf has left
  786. labdsf has joined
  787. rtq3 has joined
  788. flow yeah gajim is improving a lot recently
  789. labdsf has left
  790. labdsf has left
  791. labdsf has joined
  792. labdsf has left
  793. labdsf has left
  794. labdsf has left
  795. labdsf has left
  796. labdsf has joined
  797. Tobias has joined
  798. Tobias has joined
  799. ralphm has left
  800. rishiraj22 has left
  801. rishiraj22 has left
  802. rishiraj22 has joined
  803. Yagiza has joined
  804. mimi89999 has joined
  805. rishiraj22 has left
  806. rishiraj22 has left
  807. rishiraj22 has left
  808. SamWhited has left
  809. Tobias has joined
  810. alexis has left
  811. Andrew Nenakhov has left
  812. Andrew Nenakhov has joined
  813. alexis has joined
  814. SamWhited has left
  815. rishiraj22 has left
  816. winfried has left
  817. winfried has joined
  818. SamWhited has left
  819. labdsf has left
  820. j.r has joined
  821. j.r has joined
  822. rishiraj22 has left
  823. Dave Cridland has left
  824. SamWhited has left
  825. rishiraj22 has left
  826. rishiraj22 has left
  827. rishiraj22 has joined
  828. goffi has joined
  829. Tobias has joined
  830. rion has left
  831. rishiraj22 has joined
  832. rishiraj22 has left
  833. rishiraj22 has left
  834. rishiraj22 has left
  835. rtq3 has left
  836. rishiraj22 has left
  837. rishiraj22 has left
  838. marmistrz has left
  839. marmistrz has joined
  840. zak has joined
  841. rishiraj22 has left
  842. daniel has left
  843. daniel has joined
  844. Guus has left
  845. Guus has left
  846. Guus has left
  847. Valerian has joined
  848. rtq3 has joined
  849. Guus has left
  850. rishiraj22 has left
  851. jubalh has joined
  852. jjrh has left
  853. jjrh has left
  854. Chobbes has joined
  855. Valerian has left
  856. Valerian has joined
  857. rishiraj22 has left
  858. Tobias has joined
  859. Alex has joined
  860. rishiraj22 has left
  861. jjrh has left
  862. jjrh has left
  863. rishiraj22 has left
  864. vanitasvitae has left
  865. Ge0rG has left
  866. Ge0rG has left
  867. Tobias has joined
  868. jubalh has left
  869. rishiraj22 has left
  870. goffi has left
  871. jubalh has joined
  872. jjrh has left
  873. rion has left
  874. rtq3 has left
  875. rtq3 has joined
  876. Ge0rG has left
  877. jjrh has left
  878. jjrh has left
  879. goffi has joined
  880. Guus has left
  881. rishiraj22 has left
  882. Ge0rG has left
  883. muppeth has joined
  884. muppeth has joined
  885. Kev has left
  886. Kev has left
  887. jubalh has left
  888. j.r has joined
  889. muppeth has left
  890. muppeth has joined
  891. j.r has joined
  892. Valerian has left
  893. jubalh has joined
  894. jubalh has left
  895. rishiraj22 has left
  896. labdsf has joined
  897. rishiraj22 has joined
  898. Alex has left
  899. Alex has joined
  900. Yagiza has left
  901. rtq3 has left
  902. Guus has left
  903. jubalh has joined
  904. jubalh has left
  905. lorddavidiii has left
  906. SamWhited has left
  907. SamWhited has left
  908. lorddavidiii has left
  909. SamWhited has left
  910. SamWhited has left
  911. SamWhited has joined
  912. jere has joined
  913. SamWhited has left
  914. marmistrz has joined
  915. SamWhited has left
  916. marmistrz has left
  917. daniel has left
  918. mikeao has left
  919. Seve/SouL Link Mauve: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Membership_Applications_Q3_2018
  920. Link Mauve Ok, let’s do that now.
  921. Link Mauve https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Membership_Applications_Q3_2018#Applicants
  922. Seve/SouL Link Mauve: great :)
  923. pep. wooh
  924. pep. Q3 already..
  925. pep. Time flies
  926. valo has left
  927. Seve/SouL Yes :(
  928. Seve/SouL I will have to find my application
  929. Seve/SouL Or do a new one, wonder what...
  930. lorddavidiii has left
  931. SamWhited has left
  932. waqas has joined
  933. efrit has left
  934. Seve/SouL But yeah, a year already!
  935. SamWhited has joined
  936. winfried has joined
  937. rtq3 has joined
  938. jere has joined
  939. edhelas damn me too
  940. j.r has left
  941. j.r has joined
  942. Nekit has joined
  943. Wiktor has left
  944. zak has left
  945. rtq3 has left
  946. efrit has joined
  947. j.r has left
  948. j.r has joined
  949. goffi has left
  950. marmistrz has left
  951. Dave Cridland has left
  952. andy has left
  953. lnj has left
  954. daniel has left
  955. SamWhited has left
  956. rtq3 has joined
  957. lnj has left
  958. Zash has left
  959. Chobbes has joined
  960. lskdjf has left
  961. j.r has joined
  962. jubalh has joined
  963. jubalh has left
  964. j.r has joined
  965. SaltyBones has left
  966. jubalh has joined
  967. efrit has left
  968. Alex has left
  969. Guus has left
  970. Guus has left
  971. valo has joined
  972. Guus has joined
  973. marc has left
  974. Bunneh has left
  975. rtq3 has left
  976. Bunneh has left
  977. Bunneh has joined
  978. Nekit has joined
  979. jubalh has left
  980. jubalh has joined
  981. lskdjf has left
  982. edhelas has left
  983. edhelas has joined
  984. waqas has left
  985. valo has left
  986. valo has joined
  987. rtq3 has joined
  988. rtq3 has left
  989. rtq3 has joined
  990. j.r has joined
  991. anjan has left
  992. waqas has joined
  993. jubalh has joined
  994. nyco has left
  995. nyco has joined
  996. la|r|ma has joined
  997. Zash has left
  998. winfried has joined
  999. rtq3 has left
  1000. j.r has joined
  1001. winfried has left
  1002. moparisthebest has left
  1003. tux has joined
  1004. daniel has left
  1005. daniel has joined
  1006. anjan has left
  1007. j.r has joined
  1008. j.r has joined
  1009. lnj has left
  1010. MattJ has left
  1011. anjan has joined
  1012. igor75 has joined
  1013. ralphm has joined
  1014. Holger has left
  1015. j.r has joined
  1016. rtq3 has joined