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  346. Guus Is this semantically equivalent?
  347. Guus <foo xmlns="mynamespace"><bar/></foo> <x:foo xmlns:x="mynamespace"><bar/></x:foo>
  348. Guus is the 'bar' element in the same namespace?
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  351. Kev I believe the answer is "yes", but never trust anyone giving XML answers off the top of their head :)
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  364. jonasw Guus, no, it’s not equivalent
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  366. jonasw <bar/> is in the default namespace in both examples. but in the second example, the default namespace was rebound by <foo xmlns="…"/>, while in the second example, the default namespace is undefined (i.e. no namespace; unless there is outer content which defines the default namespace)
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  372. jonasw Guus, ``` >>> t1 = lxml.etree.fromstring('<foo xmlns="mynamespace"><bar/></foo>') >>> t2 = lxml.etree.fromstring('<x:foo xmlns:x="mynamespace"><bar/></x:foo>') >>> t1[0].tag '{mynamespace}bar' >>> t2[0].tag 'bar' ``` (this is clarks notation, i.e. {namespace}local-name)
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  376. Guus Thanks Jonas, Kev
  377. Kev I said not to trust me :)
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  379. jonasw also, I meant to say "but in the *first* example", not "but in the second example"
  380. Guus No, but you confirmed my suspicion that I had to check 🙂
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  382. Guus jonasw, I assumed as much
  383. Guus I didn't get that clarks notation, btw
  384. jonasw Guus, http://www.jclark.com/xml/xmlns.htm
  385. jonasw it’s a way to write namespaced elements, independently of prefixes. it’s very useful for debugging and even for an internal data representaiton
  386. jonasw it’s sometimes used on the mailing list. the name of the element <foo xmlns="bar"/> would be {bar}foo in clarks notation
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  391. Kev {jabber:client}message, etc.
  392. jonasw yupp
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  395. MattJ Prosody uses that notation in its simplified xpath thing
  396. jonasw it should be used everywhere :)
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  594. Zash Is it Board Time?
  595. MattJ ralphm, Guus, nyco
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  598. Guus I can't make it, sorry
  599. Guus About to be in a car again
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  602. MattJ np
  603. nyco Hey, bandwidth issue on mobile
  604. nyco Sorry
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  610. MattJ Ok, I think we're skipping this week then :)
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