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flow
> labdsf> flow, what if someone sents silent messages to bare JID?
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flow
rfc612(0|1) routing rules apply
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flow
and possibly carbons or im-ng routing rules
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MattJ
labdsf, correct
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ralphm
Hi
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Guus
o/
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ralphm
set the topic to
XSF Board Meeting | Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/ | Agenda https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings
- ralphm bangs gavel
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ralphm
0. Welcome and Agenda
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ralphm
Who do we have?
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ralphm
And what do you have?
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MattJ
Here
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Guus
Here, headache.
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ralphm
Be well, sir.
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Guus
instant cure: less webrtc
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ralphm
I've been swamped in other stuff, so I know the feeling.
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ralphm
Was there a meeting last week? I was tied up in another (work) meeting.
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MattJ
There wasn't
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MattJ
Oh, on this topic, I contacted Martin a couple of weeks ago
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MattJ
He moved house, job and other stuff, he said he'll be back online as soon as he can
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ralphm
Oh, that's good to hear.
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ralphm
I don't feel we have anything pressing at the moment.
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jonasw
(survey?)
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MattJ
The two items on my radar are the GDPR team and the survey
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ralphm
Ok
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ralphm
Let's start with
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ralphm
1. Survey
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MattJ
I'll take minutes too
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ralphm
(thanks)
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MattJ
Survey is easy... I simply haven't had time to do anything with the results yet
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ralphm
Clear.
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MattJ
I have them in a spreadsheet, but the format is non-trivial to get useful overviews from currently, it needs a bit of processing
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MattJ
Stupid things like it put the ratings as text strings instead of numbers, so it's "(1) Poor" to "(5) Excellent", etc.
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ralphm
Right. Take your time to get that right then.
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ralphm
:-(
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MattJ
and I've just been a bit busy the past couple of weeks
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ralphm
Same here.
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MattJ
But yeah, it's top of my todo, so hopefully by next week we can discuss it
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MattJ
Nothing else to report
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ralphm
Thanks
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ralphm
2. GDPR
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ralphm
Did we get an answer from Alex?
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MattJ
I sent him some messages, but he didn't respond
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Guus
Did we ask Alex? 🙂
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MattJ
I can ping him again
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MattJ
I also pinged Winfried, who said his time is limited but he'd be happy to help where he can
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Guus
awesome
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ralphm
Cool.
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MattJ
I don't think we will have that much to do, I'm willing to take on the iteam part of things, for the most part
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ralphm
Right, probably mostly making the inventory itself
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MattJ
so I see the two steps as 1) inventory of data 2) analysis of what actions we need to take for each of those
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ralphm
And the Privacy Policy
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MattJ
and that
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ralphm
ok
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ralphm
3. AOB
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MattJ
None here
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Guus
nor here
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Guus
I'll be awol for two weeks, starting july 13th.
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ralphm
So that brings us into
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ralphm
4. Date of Next
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Guus
+1w works for me.
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ralphm
I'm sure there will be other vacation plans. I'm just going to keep assuming a meeting every week and see if we get quorum
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ralphm
+1W it is
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ralphm
5. Close
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ralphm
Thanks all!
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Guus
thank you!
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Guus
back to me MediaTrackConstraints 😞
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ralphm
set the topic to
XSF Discussion | Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/ | Agenda https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings
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MattJ
Thanks
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ralphm
Guus: good luck with that
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ralphm
(and the headache)
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Guus
tx
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Guus
more coffee.
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edhelas
I'm just dropping this link here again as it might interest you https://nl.movim.eu/?about#caps_widget_tab it's some clients statistics generated from the presences that I've cached
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Guus
Nice!
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daniel
edhelas: what's the user base for that? Users on movim.eu or also remote servers.
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edhelas
yeah on this nl.movim.eu pod, so I'm not expecting to have 5% of Movim clients worldwide
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edhelas
also Movim users (and their related JIDs) are close to the XMPP community as well so aware of "modern clients"
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daniel
Is this over the total number of presences? Or total number of full jids?
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edhelas
but it's basically compiled from all the full jid yes (they are merged across the connected accounts as well, see https://github.com/movim/movim/blob/master/app/widgets/Caps/Caps.php#L68)
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labdsf
https://keybase.io/blog/keybase-exploding-messages https://keybase.io/docs/crypto/ephemeral (one more messenger implements ephemeral messages)
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labdsf
> The goal is that even if an attacker steals one of your encrypted exploding messages from our server, and then later steals one of your devices and all the keys on it, there should still be no way for the attacker to decrypt the message.
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labdsf
By the way, it seems all these messengers (signal, keybase, wire) expose user device list to contacts, probably because it is way easier to manage keys this way. Somewhat related to recent MIX discussion: trying to hide multiple devices behind a pseudonym limits interaction to simple chat. File transfers, calls, etc. rely on direct interaction anyway.
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labdsf
> I'm just dropping this link here again as it might interest you https://nl.movim.eu/?about#caps_widget_tab it's some clients statistics generated from the presences that I've cached "Conversations" is listed twice, 50% and 2.3%