XSF Discussion - 2018-07-07


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  233. daniel well it’s a good thing that we have standards https://github.com/siacs/Conversations/blob/master/src/main/java/eu/siacs/conversations/generator/IqGenerator.java#L447-L449
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  237. MattJ Do we?
  238. MattJ For this, I mean
  239. daniel No
  240. daniel Last time we couldn't agree on a name
  241. daniel And decided not to do it at all
  242. MattJ Heh
  243. MattJ Well that's silly for something that's clearly being used widely already
  244. jonasw :(
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  247. MattJ Also, just this week I added a new config option to control whether members in a members-only room are allowed to invite others (who get automatically added as members)
  248. MattJ That should probably also be standardized
  249. jonasw good thing that it’s easy to add stuff to the MUC config
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  252. MattJ https://hg.prosody.im/trunk/rev/92f0876b9230#l1.28 FWIW
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  256. daniel MattJ, are you also putting this in disco#info
  257. MattJ Ah, I meant to check that
  258. daniel as a client i need to know whether i should render that invite button
  259. MattJ My guess is probably not right now
  260. MattJ I'll look at that now
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  263. MattJ Yeah, we're not, 1-line fix
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  265. daniel also could you put the roomconfig_name in there?
  266. daniel while you are at it
  267. daniel i made this point recently on the mailinglist or here in the chat that most servers prefil the identity name with the localpart; thus preventing me from checking if the name is currently empty
  268. daniel looking at roomconfig_name would allow me to check that
  269. MattJ Ok, shall do
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  279. MattJ daniel, oh, looks like that's not standard either?
  280. daniel MattJ, you can add any roomconfig_name into the disco#info
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  282. MattJ daniel, says?
  283. daniel took me a second to figure that out myself
  284. MattJ I thought so too at first
  285. MattJ But look closely, and roomconfig != roominfo
  286. MattJ roominfo is a separate registry
  287. MattJ That said, roomconfig_name isn't there either
  288. daniel yes. but you can still add roomconfig things to the disco#info form. give me a second the find that
  289. daniel > he muc#roomconfig FORM_TYPE can be included in the extended service discovery fields (as shown above for the "muc#roomconfig_changesubject" field).
  290. MattJ Hmm
  291. daniel its roomconfig_roomname sorry
  292. daniel typed that from memory
  293. daniel i had already prepared a PR that registeres roominfo_roomname when i found that
  294. MattJ Ahh, ok, thanks
  295. MattJ So strange
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  297. daniel there are quite a few roomconfig things that should be put in the disco#info as well. like allowpm and allowinvites
  298. daniel how is your allow_invites different from that by the way?
  299. MattJ I considered that (and may be open to persuasion)
  300. MattJ But I don't think that just because you can send an invite automatically indicates that you can invite non-members
  301. daniel mhhh
  302. MattJ In fact the XEP actually states that this should be restricted to admins
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  304. MattJ "If the room is members-only, the service MAY also add the invitee to the member list. (Note: Invitation privileges in members-only rooms SHOULD be restricted to room admins; if a member without privileges to edit the member list attempts to invite another user, the service SHOULD return a <forbidden/> error to the occupant; for details, see the Modifying the Member List section of this document.)"
  305. daniel mhhh fair enough
  306. MattJ Prosody doesn't actually implement allowinvites
  307. MattJ It's pretty useless given the existence of direct invitations
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  341. MattJ daniel, done in trunk, looks like this: https://prosody.im/pastebin/029789ae-3642-47da-be6e-957eeec0831b
  342. daniel Thanks
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  411. flow There could be good story about the reason that ejabberd community and saas use different strings for MUC/MAM. Or is it just "don't care"?
  412. jonasw yeah, I’d like to hear that story too
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  414. flow Holger, ^ maybe you can shed some light into this?
  415. Holger SaaS has an older code base, that's all.
  416. Holger I think it was changed to match the suggestion from some PR or something.
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  555. daniel Working with ejabberd SaaS is a deja vu for a lot of the small annoying things that got fixed in ejabberd a while ago
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  566. Holger Yes they're careful merging stuff to avoid breakage, which also avoids fixes. SaaS is a bit like Debian.
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