XSF Discussion - 2018-07-19


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  75. 404.city daniel, xmpp.org this is not an ordinary site about XMPP. The central site about XMPP. This list is copied to other sites and distributed as a recommendation. New users think that the missing servers in the list are bad. This list contains 5 servers selected based on biased criteria. It has 2 small servers(yax.im and jwchat). 1 without closed registration(jabber.at). 2 large, but without registration through clients and problems with XEP support (no http upload or omemo/xmpp.jp and jabber.ru). This list does not help the beginner. This list is misleading that these are good servers, and the rest are worse. A new server can not be added to this list, because they say "the place is occupied". I do not want to offend anyone and say that this servers is worse. I want there should not be a biased list or it should be freedom to add XMPP servers
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  85. 404.city If an unbiased list can not be exist, then there should not be a list. I think this is xmpp.org not a personal blog. In XMPP clients, you can find a criterion. In the case of servers, this is ambiguous. Popularity can be faked and does not say that the server is good. The remaining criteria require large computational resources and a lot of new code (XEP, sertificat verfy, uptime).
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  220. Link Mauve “20:19:00 Ge0rG> If nobody cries loudly, right now, I'll delete both those pages.”, I think it should be made a redirection to the more well-known page.
  221. Link Mauve Breaking URLs is always a bad thing.
  222. Link Mauve And if it has such a high ranking, it must be valuable to redirect it to https://xmpp.org/getting-started/
  223. Link Mauve iteam people, please do that ↑
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  232. Ge0rG A wiki admin can do that. It seems I'm a wiki admin.
  233. jonasw which pages are we talking about?
  234. Ge0rG jonasw: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Getting_Started
  235. jonasw can’t you make it a proper redirect?
  236. Ge0rG oh, wiki redirects only go to other wiki pages
  237. flow https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ExternalRedirect ?
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  250. Ge0rG flow: that requires iteam indeed.
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  340. Link Mauve My suggestion would be to do the 301 directly in the nginx configuration.
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  480. nyco hey all, board meeting?
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  486. nyco yes? no?
  487. nyco test
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  490. nyco that must be it... ;-)
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  497. nyco Matthew and Guus have sent apologies yesterday
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  516. nyco time out... :'(
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  652. Seve/SouL That was quick
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