XSF Discussion - 2018-08-23

SamWhited, wouldn't it be better if the client could optionally send its aggregate token when requesting his roster via xep366 (the client request in example 3), instead of sending each and every roster item and its xep366 version? Assuming that the roster doesn't usually change between logins

I really should rework that xep. I feel like there was a reason for that particular thing, but I'm too tired to remember it right now

test

nyco, what client are you using? It surprises me that you need to 'test' most of the time.

XMPP aught to be more reliable 🙂

it's not

I use doubtful software ;-)

in doubtful version

are we having the meeting?

Hey

sure

hi Matt

time

ralphm, you here?

Martin, not the Martin that's usually here these days, here?

I guess it's just us

nyco, do you want to do the honours?

what are the honours?

lead the meeting 🙂

sure

does it work? 😉

agenda

auch... :_

hehehe

we have no topic for decision

Draft a membership survey on priorities.

Create plan for online shop selling XSF swag

Collect information on the role and responsibilities of the executive officer.

Fundraising and financing

Search for a Executive Director replacement

these are in the trello board, which ones do we want/need to discuss?

Let's tackle them one at a time

then all 5 for today? sure

There is also one PR which needs board approval, fyi: https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/695

The survey is done, though not officially reviewed

Nothing pressing though.

who's the minute taker? MattJ? Guus? anyone?

My laptop froze so I'm currently on my phone

oops

I shall minute

thx

1. Draft a membership survey on priorities.

the survey has run, we have the results

no shared analysis afaik, we should discuss and make a plan?

well, we did this to find out what our priorities were going to be, right?

Right

It's a bit late for that this year I think, though hopefully the next board will find it useful

that's also what I understand

our tenure is almost over - so maybe we should aim to gather what priorities next board could set 🙂

Sure, I think we can still act on the data in other ways we see fit

next board to be elected on November, we may be able to produce some work for them though

MattJ, sure.

I must admit i've not looked at this further.

so we draft a proposed set of prios for the next board?

I think we should condense the findings, and come up with a handful of proposed priorities?

Could work, yes

I believe there is no big surprise

ok, who's taking the task?

as you were unsurprised, you? 🙂

most of the things in the survey have been quite discussed

created the card, please review: https://trello.com/c/Al4GHsYy/311-proposed-prios-for-the-2018-2019-board-based-on-survey

ok, I take it

lgtm, thanks

2. Create plan for online shop selling XSF swag

I understand there is no online shop that fully satisfies us

we still wish to sell online with minimal effort

the markup is of concern

although I'm still not opposed to this, I'm starting to wonder if it's more trouble than its worth.

as well as the fact that those platforms are fully proprietary

I share the feeling

my "pro" is the ease of setup: just upload a logo, and boom you got mugs for sale

SCAM takes care of those

there is still a need for T-shirts, polos, sweaters for FOSDEM and the likes ✏

yes

We had an offer from... was it Martin? For assistance with this too

Martin has been awol for quite a while

It was muppeth

I meant non-XSF Martin :) (but I was wrong anyway)

Just knew it was m*

eh?

you lost me

thank you !XSF_Martin 🙂

<muppeth>  nyco: about swag. I started a project called aptgetshirt.com while back where we produce (print) shirts and donate 50% of profit to proje cts. We use water based inks and fair trade (organic) garment as oppose to slave labor zazzle and alike. We thought of running xmpp shirt campaign somewhere around november, since you guys are looking for something we could work together on that. We also start slowly with stickers too.

his completion got the wrong nick

From a meeting some weeks back

ooooh right, I forgot

either we move on this, or we don't

but lets make up our minds, at least for now.

we could have more info, to take a decision on

That'll drag on. I motion that we abandon the effort to create an online shop for now, until someone comes up with a clear plan that we can vote on directly.

why not, we can ask muppeth?

we've been at this since April. It is unlikely that things progress, at least not in the context of Board.

I'm fine either way

+1 or -1 guys.

To what exactly?

I motion that we abandon the effort to create an online shop for now, until someone comes up with a clear plan that we can vote on directly.

Oh, sorry

+1

Well, +1... but I thought that's kinda where we were at anyway :)

so, we reach the middle of the agenda, but it is already 53...

should we stop here?

I can't stay much longer than 16:00

so, AOB?

None here

not from me

Time / date of next meeting?

+1W

+1

wfm

wfm

😉

thx! 😉

gsynk yoou!

ooh, lefthandshiftleft.

thank you

Sorry, I was dragged into a work meeting

Thanks nyco

hi

Hi peter

It seems that /var/ on atlas (mail server) ran out of space. Jonathan Siegle and I are cleaning things up.

I noticed we have some large mailing list archives from 2002-2004 for a cvslog@ list that was used by JabberStudio: https://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/cvslog/ Although they might be of historical interest, I suggest that we delete the archives.

BTW, as a result of /var/ running out of space, mail hasn't been delivered for some undefined period of time.

Do we still have the CVS somewhere?

I kind of doubt that we do.

I don't know which machine was running JabberStudio CVS - the machine is probably long gone. :-)

I doubt it would hold that much for us, just sometimes I like to go digging for historical artefacts :)

Oh, I see, it was for all jabberstudio projects... fun

yeah

Let's not kill these off unless we have to.

I like the historical stuff, and it can be useful for patent defense purposes at times.

How large is it?

Not huge - 300MB?? Maybe /var/ needs to be expanded. And we had various logs which could be deleted (e.g., apache and we're not using that anymore) so I think we're good for now.

Back it up somewhere?

(this seams like a discussion for iteam@)

seems

Yes, I raised it in that room. Removing list archives and lists is something I've always checked with the membership about.

good point

Anyway, I think we can defer this decision.

I don't like deleting stuff. It is a problem.

(Hi, I'm ralphm)

I'm deleting some apache2 logs though. Justifying it through GDRP. ;-)

hahah

Ha, Jogger

nice :)

Is planet.jabber.org having a bug? I'm constantly receiving my GSoC posts as updates :/