XSF Discussion - 2018-08-23


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  259. flow SamWhited, wouldn't it be better if the client could optionally send its aggregate token when requesting his roster via xep366 (the client request in example 3), instead of sending each and every roster item and its xep366 version? Assuming that the roster doesn't usually change between logins
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  290. SamWhited I really should rework that xep. I feel like there was a reason for that particular thing, but I'm too tired to remember it right now
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  308. nyco test
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  317. Guus nyco, what client are you using? It surprises me that you need to 'test' most of the time.
  318. Guus XMPP aught to be more reliable 🙂
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  320. nyco it's not
  321. nyco I use doubtful software ;-)
  322. nyco in doubtful version
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  324. nyco are we having the meeting?
  325. MattJ Hey
  326. Guus sure
  327. Guus hi Matt
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  329. nyco time
  330. Guus ralphm, you here?
  331. Guus Martin, not the Martin that's usually here these days, here?
  332. MattJ I guess it's just us
  333. Guus nyco, do you want to do the honours?
  334. nyco what are the honours?
  335. Guus lead the meeting 🙂
  336. nyco sure
  337. nyco sonne la cloche
  338. nyco does it work? 😉
  339. nyco agenda
  340. Guus auch... :_
  341. nyco hehehe
  342. nyco we have no topic for decision
  343. nyco Draft a membership survey on priorities.
  344. nyco Create plan for online shop selling XSF swag
  345. nyco Collect information on the role and responsibilities of the executive officer.
  346. nyco Fundraising and financing
  347. nyco Search for a Executive Director replacement
  348. nyco these are in the trello board, which ones do we want/need to discuss?
  349. MattJ Let's tackle them one at a time
  350. nyco then all 5 for today? sure
  351. Link Mauve There is also one PR which needs board approval, fyi: https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/695
  352. MattJ The survey is done, though not officially reviewed
  353. Link Mauve Nothing pressing though.
  354. nyco who's the minute taker? MattJ? Guus? anyone?
  355. MattJ My laptop froze so I'm currently on my phone
  356. nyco oops
  357. Guus I shall minute
  358. nyco thx
  359. nyco 1. Draft a membership survey on priorities.
  360. nyco the survey has run, we have the results
  361. nyco no shared analysis afaik, we should discuss and make a plan?
  362. Guus well, we did this to find out what our priorities were going to be, right?
  363. MattJ Right
  364. MattJ It's a bit late for that this year I think, though hopefully the next board will find it useful
  365. nyco that's also what I understand
  366. Guus our tenure is almost over - so maybe we should aim to gather what priorities next board could set 🙂
  367. MattJ Sure, I think we can still act on the data in other ways we see fit
  368. nyco next board to be elected on November, we may be able to produce some work for them though
  369. Guus MattJ, sure.
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  371. Guus I must admit i've not looked at this further.
  372. nyco so we draft a proposed set of prios for the next board?
  373. Guus I think we should condense the findings, and come up with a handful of proposed priorities?
  374. MattJ Could work, yes
  375. nyco I believe there is no big surprise
  376. nyco ok, who's taking the task?
  377. Guus as you were unsurprised, you? 🙂
  378. nyco most of the things in the survey have been quite discussed
  379. nyco created the card, please review: https://trello.com/c/Al4GHsYy/311-proposed-prios-for-the-2018-2019-board-based-on-survey
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  381. nyco ok, I take it
  382. MattJ lgtm, thanks
  383. nyco 2. Create plan for online shop selling XSF swag
  384. nyco I understand there is no online shop that fully satisfies us
  385. nyco we still wish to sell online with minimal effort
  386. nyco the markup is of concern
  387. Guus although I'm still not opposed to this, I'm starting to wonder if it's more trouble than its worth.
  388. nyco as well as the fact that those platforms are fully proprietary
  389. nyco I share the feeling
  390. nyco my "pro" is the ease of setup: just upload a logo, and boom you got mugs for sale
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  392. nyco there is still a need for T-shorts, polo, sweaters for FOSDEM and the likes
  393. Guus SCAM takes care of those
  394. nyco there is still a need for T-shirts, polos, sweaters for FOSDEM and the likes
  395. nyco yes
  396. MattJ We had an offer from... was it Martin? For assistance with this too
  397. Guus Martin has been awol for quite a while
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  400. MattJ It was muppeth
  401. MattJ I meant non-XSF Martin :) (but I was wrong anyway)
  402. MattJ Just knew it was m*
  403. Guus eh?
  404. Guus you lost me
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  406. Guus thank you !XSF_Martin 🙂
  407. MattJ <muppeth>  nyco: about swag. I started a project called aptgetshirt.com while back where we produce (print) shirts and donate 50% of profit to proje cts. We use water based inks and fair trade (organic) garment as oppose to slave labor zazzle and alike. We thought of running xmpp shirt campaign somewhere around november, since you guys are looking for something we could work together on that. We also start slowly with stickers too.
  408. nyco his completion got the wrong nick
  409. MattJ From a meeting some weeks back
  410. nyco ooooh right, I forgot
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  412. Guus either we move on this, or we don't
  413. Guus but lets make up our minds, at least for now.
  414. nyco we could have more info, to take a decision on
  415. Guus That'll drag on. I motion that we abandon the effort to create an online shop for now, until someone comes up with a clear plan that we can vote on directly.
  416. nyco why not, we can ask muppeth?
  417. Guus we've been at this since April. It is unlikely that things progress, at least not in the context of Board.
  418. MattJ I'm fine either way
  419. Guus +1 or -1 guys.
  420. MattJ To what exactly?
  421. Guus I motion that we abandon the effort to create an online shop for now, until someone comes up with a clear plan that we can vote on directly.
  422. MattJ Oh, sorry
  423. nyco +1
  424. MattJ Well, +1... but I thought that's kinda where we were at anyway :)
  425. nyco so, we reach the middle of the agenda, but it is already 53...
  426. nyco should we stop here?
  427. Guus I can't stay much longer than 16:00
  428. nyco so, AOB?
  429. MattJ None here
  430. Guus not from me
  431. nyco Time / date of next meeting?
  432. nyco +1W
  433. nyco +1
  434. Guus wfm
  435. MattJ wfm
  436. nyco sonne la cloche
  437. nyco 😉
  438. nyco thx! 😉
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  440. Guus gsynk yoou!
  441. Guus ooh, lefthandshiftleft.
  442. Guus thank you
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  447. ralphm Sorry, I was dragged into a work meeting
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  450. ralphm Thanks nyco
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  464. peter hi
  465. MattJ Hi peter
  466. peter It seems that /var/ on atlas (mail server) ran out of space. Jonathan Siegle and I are cleaning things up.
  467. peter I noticed we have some large mailing list archives from 2002-2004 for a cvslog@ list that was used by JabberStudio: https://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/cvslog/ Although they might be of historical interest, I suggest that we delete the archives.
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  469. peter BTW, as a result of /var/ running out of space, mail hasn't been delivered for some undefined period of time.
  470. MattJ Do we still have the CVS somewhere?
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  472. peter I kind of doubt that we do.
  473. peter I don't know which machine was running JabberStudio CVS - the machine is probably long gone. :-)
  474. MattJ I doubt it would hold that much for us, just sometimes I like to go digging for historical artefacts :)
  475. MattJ Oh, I see, it was for all jabberstudio projects... fun
  476. peter yeah
  477. peter Let's not kill these off unless we have to.
  478. peter I like the historical stuff, and it can be useful for patent defense purposes at times.
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  480. MattJ How large is it?
  481. peter Not huge - 300MB?? Maybe /var/ needs to be expanded. And we had various logs which could be deleted (e.g., apache and we're not using that anymore) so I think we're good for now.
  482. Zash Back it up somewhere?
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  485. ralphm (this seams like a discussion for iteam@)
  486. ralphm seems
  487. peter Yes, I raised it in that room. Removing list archives and lists is something I've always checked with the membership about.
  488. ralphm good point
  489. peter Anyway, I think we can defer this decision.
  490. ralphm I don't like deleting stuff. It is a problem.
  491. ralphm (Hi, I'm ralphm)
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  493. peter I'm deleting some apache2 logs though. Justifying it through GDRP. ;-)
  494. peter goes back to his W3C meeting in progress
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  500. peter nice :)
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  642. vanitasvitae Is planet.jabber.org having a bug? I'm constantly receiving my GSoC posts as updates :/
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