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  316. edhelas hi everyone, I'm planning to work on a new XEP that could greatly improve the use of Jingle into XMPP clients
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  326. edhelas it could be called Jingle Messaging or Jingle Call History, the idea would be to allow Jingle XMPP clients to send <messages> to the other party to notify it about events that happened on Jingle. I found 3 use cases: a <message> that said that you missed a call (with a <body> for uncompatible clients), another to say that you had a call of 2:54 min with the other contact and a voicemail (basically a <message> with a specific tag and an audio file attached to it).
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  329. edhelas That way those messages could be saved on MAM and all the clients could then have the history of all the calls that happened with the other contacts. I could also be notified on Conversations that someone tried to call me and then connect on Movim to make the call again (Conversations has then the role of a "pager").
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  388. MattJ edhelas, sounds interesting :)
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  401. jonasw edhelas, I wonder if the "missed call" case can already be covered by archiving Jingle requests?
  402. jonasw (those are <message/>s IIRC)
  403. edhelas ah maybe
  404. jonasw not sure if they contain enough information to discern "call" and "file transfer" and other jingle use cases though
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  487. Link Mauve edhelas, you mean https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0353.html
  488. Link Mauve Please adopt it instead of writing a new one.
  489. edhelas no this is not what I was talking about
  490. edhelas this is about dealing with someone that is online
  491. edhelas in my use cases the other party could be gone
  492. Link Mauve You will receive it from MAM once you are offline.
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  545. edhelas I see, it solves some of the cases
  546. edhelas great
  547. edhelas is there clients that are implementing that ?
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  602. jonasw is support@404.city a spammer or actually the 404.city person?
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  637. goffi edhelas: not yet, but I'm planning to implement this one, it's really handy.
  638. Link Mauve edhelas, I have it implemented in my Rust library, but there is no working client yet.
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  650. edhelas ok :)
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  837. moparisthebest https://sotecware.net/images/dont-puush-me/400A0c9qHGa3fwYfPNT8K9ixOjsuFsLmEIX-WtU5s8A.png > left: XEP-0392, right: HSLuv
  838. moparisthebest jonasw: left looks best to me of all 4, the other 3 are a lot darker and look like 1 color per row to me
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  840. moparisthebest Just FYI I'm a bit colorblind so take it with grain of salt, would like to see real life name coloring again :) (like names from this muc)
  841. Zash Name tags! IRL name tags for everyone!
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  847. 404.city Server 404 https://compliance.conversations.im/server/404.city/ has disappeared from the list https://compliance.conversations.im
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  892. lovetox haha moparisthebest comedy your last sentence :D
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  894. moparisthebest lovetox: ?
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  896. Zash moparisthebest: You wanna see the algorithms applied to actual nicknames like the ones in this room?
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  903. moparisthebest Zash: yes
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  905. moparisthebest jonasw generated examples using real room names before, they turned out too similar for me
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