XSF logo XSF Discussion - 2018-09-07


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  214. daniel Would it be a stupid idea to have the muc server include the caps hash in room configuration change messages?
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  229. pep. I have a poezio plugin that pulls the config and diffs, when there's a configuration change :x
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  433. Kev Meanwhile, in Isode chat: Edwin I shall not mention PRECIS, shall I Kev PRECIS is a story told to frighten young children.
  434. Zash If you don't behave, you'll have to investigate how IDNA2003, IDNA2008 and PRECIS interacts.
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  444. Maranda 😲
  445. Maranda Do I want to know..?
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  447. Maranda looked at rfc-4013 yesterday and noticed all those "Errata Exists" / "Obsoleted By" 🙄
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  489. lovetox there is a caps hash for rooms? Oo
  490. lovetox didnt know that
  491. Zash caps hash is a function of disco#info, so why notq
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  495. MattJ Good idea imho
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  497. lovetox the benefit is not that great though
  498. Zash Hm, where did that come from?
  499. lovetox are there many muc config changes that dont affect the disco?
  500. Zash I thought I saw an email but now I don't
  501. lovetox if you mean why i brought up that topic, daniel asked in this room if the hash could be in the 104 status message
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  503. Zash Ah there, hidden in a ton of joins and parts
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  505. lovetox i would say its useful if there is a common case where the hash is not changed although a 104 message was sent
  506. Zash There are some settings that have status codes, some that just change in disco, others that might not have anything in disco at all.
  507. Zash I think(?)
  508. lovetox yeah what are those that are not in disco
  509. lovetox for the others is a hash not useful because it would be different anyway
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  512. Zash Duno
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  514. Zash You wouldn't be able to get stuff by discoing anyways
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  517. lovetox if i disco i except to get a disco, what do you mean?
  518. Zash wut
  519. lovetox if i disco i expect to get a disco, what do you mean?
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  521. lovetox what is the "stuff" you are talking that i dont get
  522. Zash If something isn't in disco, you wouldn't get it via disco
  523. lovetox i doubt there is much in a room config, that does not affect the disco
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  525. lovetox thats why i would be interested about what frequently changed option daniel thinks
  526. lovetox where this would allow him to skip a disco
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  528. daniel lovetox, well first of it was just a random thought i didn’t think it all the way through. i just thought that muc configs are probably very similiar. for example most users (on my client) will probably just have the conversations default config
  529. Zash daniel: Name and stuff goes in there tho, so I'm assuming every room will be unique
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  531. daniel yeah name is a problem with that
  532. lovetox and you still have the problem to discover the hash
  533. daniel so it probably doesn’t buy you much
  534. Zash Probably doesn't hurt much either?
  535. Zash Benchmark or it never XEPs!! :)
  536. daniel would would be cool would be a way to discover the caps hash on join or something
  537. daniel then i don’t have to do a disco query again and again
  538. lovetox thats to late daniel, you have to put stuff into the join presence that depends on disco
  539. lovetox like history query if there is no MAM
  540. daniel yeah i know. i also run the query anway to have a reliable way of telling whether a room exists
  541. lovetox every muc publishes the hash in a pep node, and clients subscribe :D
  542. daniel but anyway it feels stupid to again and again do disco#info on 10s of rooms that all have very similiar if not the same config
  543. Zash https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0230.html :D
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