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XSF Discussion | Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/ | Agenda https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings

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[06:16:59] <goffi> https://disroot.org/en/blog/matrix-closure
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[08:14:30] *Yagiza just implemented Jingle ICE-UDP transport in eyeCU!
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[08:15:17] <Yagiza> Now Jingle RTP sessions thru NAT should work.
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[08:15:57] <flow> Yagiza, congrats :)
[08:15:57] <!XSF_Martin> Yagiza: That's a lib?
[08:16:11] <flow> I fear it is a client
[08:16:32] <Yagiza> flow, thanx
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[08:16:38] <flow> We should consider to factor out more stuff into libs, so that other projects could benefit from that functionality too
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[08:17:21] <!XSF_Martin> Ah, I was hoping it is a lib enabling voice calls for a a lot of clients.
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[08:18:09] <Yagiza> flow, yes, it's a client. But Jingle ICE-UDP XEP is implemented in a separate plugin, and ICE itself is implemented in QpICE (a part of QtPurple framework).
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[08:20:04] <Yagiza> !XSF_Martin, QtPurple has QpFFMpeg library - a wrapper for conveniend using FFMpeg in Qt applications and QpICE library - a Qt-based implementation of ICE technology.
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[08:21:02] <Yagiza> eyeCU uses QpFFMpeg in Jingle RTP Sessions plugin and QpICE in Jingle ICE-UDP Transport Method plugin.
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[08:21:39] <Yagiza> Also, Jingle itself implemented as a separate plugin.
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[08:22:53] <Yagiza> eyeCU is a fork of Vacuum-IM, so it's jut a large set of plugins and a simple loader to load and start them.
[08:23:41] <!XSF_Martin> Never heard of eyeCU, will have a look 😃
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[08:25:28] <Yagiza> !XSF_Martin, please, try it. http://eyecu.ru.
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[08:48:52] <Martin> Yagiza, you don't have 64bit debs?
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[08:51:16] <Yagiza> Martin, even 32bit debs are too old and I guess won't work.
[08:51:56] <Yagiza> Martin, unfortunately I don't have time last few years for Linux builds.
[08:51:59] <Martin> eyeC
[08:51:59] <Link Mauve> Yagiza, how far are you from WebRTC compatibility?
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[08:52:20] <Yagiza> Link Mauve, I don't know what WebRTC is.
[08:52:45] <Link Mauve> A set of protocols allowed by web browsers for audio/video conferencing.
[08:53:12] <Link Mauve> If you are compatible with them, it means you can communicate with web clients, most of them do support audio/video already.
[08:53:21] <Link Mauve> For instance JSXC, Movim or Jitsi Meet.
[08:53:23] <Yagiza> Link Mauve, I implement XEPs and I think only about correct implementation of XEPs. I don't think about compatibility with libraries or other implementations.
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[08:54:47] <Yagiza> Link Mauve, if those clients have correct implementation of Jingle stack, my client should be compatible with them.
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[08:56:11] <Link Mauve> Yagiza, this isn’t about libraries, it is about usage of ICE (good), DTLS-SRTP for encryption (do you do that?), and a few more.
[08:56:46] <Link Mauve> Yagiza, btw I saw you have a Utena avatar when reviewing the new XSF members, I love this series! <3
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[08:57:09] <Yagiza> Link Mauve, I didn't implement SRTP yet, but I guess it won't be a problem, 'cause FFMpeg should support it.
[08:57:16] <Link Mauve> Ok, great. :)
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[08:58:38] <Yagiza> Link Mauve, that Utena image from Four Days in Ohtori (Sega Saturn game). I just replaced background with self-made gradient.
[09:00:06] <Yagiza> Link Mauve, in the series Utena never wore a mask.
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[09:01:33] <Link Mauve> Heh, I thought you added the mask. ^^
[09:02:01] <Yagiza> Link Mauve, I'm using this avatar for long years, 'cause my nickname "Yagiza" means "Capricorn" and Utena is Capricorn by Zodiac.
[09:03:07] <Link Mauve> I would never have made that link!
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[09:03:44] <Yagiza> Link Mauve, also my nickname is "Yagiza" not only because I'm also Capricorn.
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[09:04:54] <Yagiza> Link Mauve, "Capricorn" means "Goat" and my family name "Козлов" (reads "Kazloff") means "of Goats".
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[09:14:38] <Link Mauve> Yagiza, if I want to compile eyecu for ArchLinux, where can I get the sources?
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[09:16:18] <Yagiza> Link Mauve, https://gitlab.com/rwsoftware/eyecu-qt
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[09:31:42] <Link Mauve> Oh, this is only for X11? :/
[09:32:10] <Link Mauve> You should eventually make the libX11, libXss and such optional.
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[09:33:46] <Yagiza> Link Mauve, no. It's just a rudiment from old Vacuum-IM. I will fix it once I have time to work on Linux builds.
[09:34:05] <Link Mauve> Ok.
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[09:34:33] <Link Mauve> What should QT_USE_FILE point to?
[09:34:41] <Link Mauve> I’m trying to build against Qt5.
[09:35:38] <Yagiza> Link Mauve, I don't know. Never heard about that variable.
[09:36:01] <Link Mauve> You use it in src/loader/CMakeLists.txt:18 as an include.
[09:36:06] <Link Mauve> And a few other places.
[09:37:06] <Yagiza> Link Mauve, don't try cmake. It is not supported by eyeCU. All cmake files are also rudimental from Vacuum-IM.
[09:37:13] <Link Mauve> Oh!
[09:38:05] <Link Mauve> I should have read INSTALL first, it says to use qmake.
[09:38:19] <Yagiza> Link Mauve, yes
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[09:40:51] <Link Mauve> https://gitlab.com/rwsoftware/eyecu-qt/merge_requests/3
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[09:46:30] <Yagiza> Link Mauve, thanx!
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