Tuesday, October 02, 2018
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XSF Discussion | Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/ | Agenda https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings

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[10:41:42] <edhelas> you can follow the XMPP Blog... on XMPP, there's a Pubsub node for it now :) news.movim.eu/XMPPBlog
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[10:42:30] <edhelas> would be nice if the XSF provides official Pubsub feeds
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[10:43:25] <MattJ> Heh, I've wanted that for a long time :)
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[10:45:56] <Zash> I want the XEPs accessible over XMPP! At least metadata.
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[10:46:44] <jonas’> if only we had incremental builds
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[10:47:54] <MattJ> Zash, write mod_pubsub_xeps and it can happen!
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[20:19:52] <daniel> If I have multiple items in a pep node should this generate one event with multiple items or multiple events?
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[20:22:05] <Zash> It depends
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[20:27:16] <daniel> On what?
[20:28:13] <Zash> What is the trigger for this event context? Subscribe? Publish? Presence?
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[20:28:38] <daniel> Presence I assume
[20:28:47] <Zash> How is the node configured? Is it set to send events? Is it configured to only send the last event? How many items does it store, if any?
[20:29:05] <Zash> If this is plain ol' PEP then you get the last item only.
[20:29:42] <daniel> Well apparently more than one item or the question wouldn't make sense
[20:30:38] <daniel> The other things I have yet to find out...
[20:31:33] <daniel> But to be more specific. Converse apparently doesn't set item ID to current when publishing omemo device lists
[20:31:53] <Zash> Then the server is supposed to pick a random one.
[20:31:58] <daniel> And for a yet unknown reason the node is configured to have multiple items
[20:32:12] <daniel> And when I log in I get *many* events
[20:32:28] <Zash> I'd say server bug then.
[20:32:46] <Zash> Unless they also accidentally configured the node to do that.
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[20:33:06] <daniel> So even on multi item nodes pep will only send out one item?
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[20:35:28] <Zash> > Default the 'send_last_published_item' configuration option to on_sub_and_presence (i.e., send the last published item on subscription and on receipt of presence).
[20:36:21] <Zash> daniel: That is the intent, yes
[20:36:39] <Zash> I'm unable to find if there's a thing for sending everything, but that wouldn't be optimal either
[20:36:53] <Zash> Wasn't this what 'pubsub since' was meant for?
[20:37:04] <Zash> https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0312.html
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[20:48:03] <daniel> Oh. It was the client just reannoucing it over and over
[20:48:18] <daniel> But at least I learned something about pep
[20:48:39] <daniel> And fixed my client not to redraw if the information didn't actually change
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