Wednesday, October 03, 2018
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XSF Discussion | Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/ | Agenda https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings

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[11:33:51] <mightyBroccoli> I would like to know if there are boundaries on how often, how in generel it is allowed to crawl the extensions website? I build a bot which is able to grab the info header from the each xep extension. But there are no threshholds on how often one could issue a request.
Or maybe if theres a neat api I could use :)
[11:34:11] <Zash> robots.txt ?
[11:34:21] <intosi> Why don't you just use a local git clone for that?
[11:34:38] <Zash> or https://xmpp.org/extensions/xeplist.xml
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[11:35:16] <jonas’> mightyBroccoli, if there’s anything more you need which isn’t in xeplist.xml, let me know
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[11:37:37] <mightyBroccoli> I wasnt aware of the xml :) thats everything I need :) caching will do the reset :) thats even better then my bs4 garbage :D
jonas’ it seems that the xml lists even the deferred xeps, are there some not listed in there?
[11:37:55] <jonas’> mightyBroccoli, the XML lists all the things
[11:37:56] <jonas’> even inbox
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[11:39:20] <mightyBroccoli> ahh ok, thats nice.
I guess the accepted tag could be used to redact the inbox xeps from the results
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[11:40:35] <jonas’> exactly
[11:41:47] <jonas’> mightyBroccoli, use If-Modified-Since
[11:41:50] <jonas’> the webserver supports that
[11:42:07] <Zash> Why not ETag/If-None-Match ?
[11:42:14] <jonas’> or that
[11:42:21] <jonas’> firefox does both and gets 304
[11:42:23] <Zash> Both work exactly the same anyways
[11:42:26] <jonas’> probably
[11:42:33] <jonas’> depends on how the etag is generated
[11:42:36] <Zash> Which means you can use them as supercookies
[11:43:16] <Zash> I made a thing once that used the timestamp of the last request in If-Modified-Since. It doesn't work then.
[11:43:29] <Zash> It has to be exactly what the server sent in whatever header it was.
[11:44:32] <mightyBroccoli> I will try both ideas and use whatever is easiest and working :)
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[16:43:03] <vanitasvitae> Hi! Who was running planet.jabber.org again?
[16:43:33] <vanitasvitae> ah found it 😀
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[16:49:34] <intosi> Won't need to point you to ralphm then ;)
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[16:50:43] <vanitasvitae> 😀
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[17:29:20] <mightyBroccoli> Zash, I am just wondering the xml you posted is actually invalid. XEP 225 talks about <domain> and <hostname> tags which are unescaped.
[17:29:36] <Zash> Who what when?
[17:29:39] <Zash> -ENOCTX
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[17:30:49] <mightyBroccoli> It's like 5 messages up 😂
[17:31:19] <Zash> Then it's scrolled out of view and out of mind, flushed away by quitjoins
[17:32:23] <Zash> Also what
[17:32:38] <Zash> I don't see how what you just said has to do with xeplist.xml, if that's what you were talking about
[17:33:32] <Link Mauve> “It does not enable a component to bind multiple hostnames to one stream (as, for example, a client can bind multiple resource identifiers).”, a client can do that?!
[17:33:48] <Link Mauve> Is this the reason why @from exists on sent stanzas?
[17:34:35] <Zash> > <remark>Modified namespace to incorporate namespace versioning; clarified that the value of the <hostname/> element
Are you just looking at the Firefox rendering of the XML?
[17:35:25] <mightyBroccoli> ok so the xeplist.xml lists all currently known xeps inbox and accepted. Inside in line 5958 this line is invalid.
> Modified namespace to incorporate namespace versioning; clarified that the value of the <hostname/> element can be either <domain> or <domain/resource>.
I did requests.get the xml and read it line directly from that no browser involved
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[17:37:07] <Zash> $ curl https://xmpp.org/extensions/xeplist.xml | grep -o '.......hostname........'
he <hostname/> el
[17:37:11] <Zash> I think you're holding it wrong
[17:37:27] <Zash> Or you're printing the text content, after unescaping.
[17:39:25] <mightyBroccoli> damn i found the error. I need to reply.content.decode to get the correct format :) thank you though :)
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[20:28:34] <mightyBroccoli> etag header is way easier then Last-Modified header. I choose etag and it works like a charm :) thanks :)
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