Thursday, October 18, 2018
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XSF Discussion | Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/ | Agenda https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings

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[12:23:38] <Zash> Would it be a good idea to include contact addresses (xep 157) in stream features?
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[12:26:48] <jonas’> I wonder if we s houldn’t just put the entire disco#info result in stream features.
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[12:29:05] <Guus> Feels like over optimization to me, adding contact addresses there.
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[12:29:59] <Zash> How would you find contact addresses without an XMPP account then?
[12:31:15] <Zash> Or in my specific case where I've blocked a bunch of servers and I don't wanna unblock them and drown in spam to see if they have contact addresses.
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[13:10:19] <flow> Zash, by sending an IQ?
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[13:10:42] <Zash> flow: Not without an XMPP account
[13:10:56] <flow> then whatever IBR does
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[13:11:39] <Zash> Custom stream element that happens to look like an IQ stanza, but really isn't?
[13:11:46] <flow> hmm, I could be wrong, but it appears to send IQs without an xmpp acount
[13:12:02] <Zash> No it's not!
[13:12:59] <Zash> That stuff just looks like IQs for historical reasons. They aren't really.
[13:13:36] <flow> care to elaborate why they aren't really?
[13:13:54] <Zash> Because nothing before a resource is bound are stanzas.
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[13:16:40] <Holger> Zash: 6120 says:

> The client could exchange stanzas with the server itself or the client's account before binding a resource since the full JID is needed only for addressing outside the context of the stream negotiated between the client and the server, but this is not commonly done.
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[13:16:57] <flow> Zash, first time I've heard that
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[13:17:54] <Zash> I don't think you should be able to send stanzas before "Completion of Stream Negotiation"
[13:18:24] <Zash> Prosody treats anything before resource binding as stream elements
[13:18:51] <Zash> Ie if there isn't something explicitly handling it, you get stream:error'd and disconnected
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[13:20:26] <Zash> Holger: That's not how it works in Prosody.
[13:20:50] <dwd> Zash, Presumably anything that isn't handled after resource binding is also stream:error'd...?
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[13:21:18] <Zash> resource binding enables special handling of the "jabber:client" namespace, so, yeah.
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[13:21:39] <Zash> Along with all the various source address sanity checking that just doesn't exist before that.
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[13:28:03] <nyco> ralphm Guus MattJ meeting at :30?
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[13:31:05] <Guus> I'm here
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[13:31:16] <Guus> I'm here
[13:33:13] <nyco> that's two
[13:33:22] <MattJ> Hey
[13:33:31] <nyco> three, quorum!
[13:33:55] <ralphm> I'm here
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[13:34:04] <ralphm> 0. Welcome and Agenda
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[13:35:01] <ralphm> What's on for today?
[13:35:11] <nyco> executive?
[13:35:24] <Guus> lets have a look at the elections
[13:35:30] <Guus> candidacy is ... low.
[13:35:34] <nyco> oh
[13:35:45] <nyco> campaign? email lists, MUCs, Twitter...
[13:36:24] <ralphm> we're still at agenda
[13:36:31] <ralphm> what else?
[13:36:37] <MattJ> Nothing from me
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[13:36:54] <Guus> I don't have anything else either.
[13:36:55] <nyco> is there some FOSDEM to discuss?
[13:37:04] <nyco> and/or Summit?
[13:37:14] <ralphm> Added
[13:37:25] <ralphm> 1. Elections
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[13:38:20] <nyco> https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Board_and_Council_Elections_2018
[13:38:23] <Guus> Alex announced board and council elections a couple of weeks ago. So far, only one person (me) has announced candidacy. We need to spread the word and ask people to stand.
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[13:38:33] <ralphm> For Board, if any one else on Board right now wants to reapply, please add yourself to the wiki, like Guus
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[13:39:09] <ralphm> If you know of someone you'd like to see on Board, please talk to them yourself.
[13:39:29] <MattJ> I probably shall, I guess... just been a bit busy the past few weeks
[13:39:30] <nyco> ralphm please apply!
[13:39:50] <ralphm> I'll also ask Council (via dwd) to consider if its current members want to run again.
[13:40:04] <ralphm> nyco: I'll reapply.
[13:40:07] <dwd> That came up last meeting.
[13:40:19] <dwd> (Raised by Ge0rG)
[13:41:00] <dwd> It might be worth raising this on members@, and also I'd encourage people to "tap" those they think would be good to encourage them to stand.
[13:41:12] <Guus> Shall we raise awareness via twitter too
[13:41:13] <Guus> ?
[13:41:53] <Guus> Alex did raise this in members@, btw
[13:41:55] <ralphm> Well, if we want to attract people from outside the Membership, I'm not opposed, but I'd rather contact people ourselves than an open invitation.
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[13:42:24] <nyco> members are on the ML and the MUCs, not sure we'll get candidates on Twitter, but we'll surely be transparent here, and talk about XMPP, which is good (not bad)
[13:42:36] <MattJ> I don't personally have anyone in mind who isn't already a member
[13:43:34] <ralphm> nyco: there is a difference between transparency ("We are having elections") and an open invitation ("We are having elections, and please sign up to be on Board"), IMO.
[13:43:46] <nyco> right
[13:44:09] <ralphm> That was my only point, really.
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[13:44:46] <ralphm> I'll write another e-mail to Members
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[13:44:58] <Seve> Thinking on adding the "We are having elections" to our newsletter, would it be interesting?
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[13:45:10] <Guus> I don't think it'd hurt, Seve.
[13:45:28] <ralphm> Indeed.
[13:45:41] <Guus> Go for it. Thanks for thinking of it.
[13:45:47] <nyco> I'm adding that right away
[13:46:02] <ralphm> Anything else on this?
[13:46:14] <Guus> not from me
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[13:47:04] <ralphm> 2. FOSDEM
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[13:47:59] <ralphm> Devroom prep is ongoing. The RfP is coming soon.
[13:48:36] <ralphm> I'll put in the request for the Lounge, too.
[13:48:48] <Guus> I am planning (SCAM-hat on) to work on this (incl. summit, dinner) next week.
[13:49:16] <ralphm> And propose we reserve the Thursday/Friday for the Summit, in whichever form SCAM comes up with.
[13:49:19] <Guus> Also, while you're here Seve, I'd love for you to get involved with some on the ideas you offered last year.
[13:49:44] <Guus> </SCAM-hat>
[13:49:50] <Guus> ralphm: I assumed that was a given.
[13:49:58] <Guus> (the dates)
[13:50:40] <ralphm> Just making sure
[13:50:55] <Guus> kk
[13:52:31] <ralphm> 3. OAB?
[13:52:41] <nyco> not for me
[13:52:44] <Guus> We need to sit with Peter
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[13:52:50] <Guus> Ralph & me
[13:52:56] <Guus> other than that, no
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[13:53:21] <MattJ> None here
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[13:53:57] <Guus> oh, when does DST changes kick in?
[13:54:05] <Guus> it's the same for everyone in this board, I think?
[13:54:14] <Guus> In which case it doesn't matter much...
[13:54:44] <ralphm> Guus: ack
[13:55:09] <Guus> I'm assuming we'll keep doing meetings at the same local time, not UTC.
[13:55:11] <ralphm> DST in the EU ends on 28
[13:55:19] <ralphm> Guus: yes
[13:55:28] <ralphm> US has already switched
[13:55:29] <Guus> good for me to think of it _beforehand_ for once 🙂
[13:55:33] <MattJ> :)
[13:55:38] <Guus> ah, so I _was_ late anyways 😃
[13:55:42] <ralphm> yeah
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[13:56:03] <Guus> k, that's it for me.
[13:56:09] <ralphm> 4. Date of Next
[13:56:22] <ralphm> +1W (exactly)
[13:56:26] <Guus> works for me
[13:56:34] <ralphm> 5. Close
[13:56:36] <ralphm> Thanks all!
[13:56:39] <Guus> Thank you
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[13:57:47] <MattJ> Thanks
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[14:00:32] <Link Mauve> “20:20:09 SamWhited> Back to the wiki: is OX XEP-0374? It doesn't appear to have been worked on in a while, is it worth including? Are there many implementations?”, Gajim at least.
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[14:02:13] <Link Mauve> “21:56:11 Zash> I fear this confusion will eventually lead someone to use a generic markdown library (with html passthrough enabled by default) and then the sky falls.”, someone just did for Converse, fyi.
[14:02:36] <Zash> Link Mauve: Which was why I wrote that
[14:03:05] <Zash> Tho I wasn't fully aware that they actually had used one by that time
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[14:03:24] <Zash> Just that they were calling it markdown
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[14:06:54] <Link Mauve> They used a full-blown Markdown-including-HTML library there.
[14:07:20] <Link Mauve> So to get back to the XHTML-IM discussions, you can’t win against stupid.
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[14:17:08] <Yagiza> Link Mauve, someone said XHTML-IM?
[14:17:46] <SamWhited> So they were trying to implement 0393, or they were doing their own markdown thing?
[14:18:54] <Link Mauve> SamWhited, they thought that implementing Markdown would give them 0393.
[14:19:30] <SamWhited> *facepalm* okay, fair enough, maybe my assumption that anyone would notice that it didn't actually work was naive.
[14:19:46] <SamWhited> But I guess no one actually reads the spec *or* looks at examples.
[14:19:49] <moparisthebest> you know JS devs, never write 3 lines of code if you can import 43 npm packages to do it for you instead
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[14:20:07] <Zash> SamWhited: They strongly insinted that it was in fact another flavor like Github Flavored Markdown
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[14:20:53] <jonas’> I can’t say I’m surprised.
[14:20:56] <SamWhited> WhatsApp flavored Markdown!
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[14:21:23] <SamWhited> HTML is W3C flavored markdown!
[14:21:38] <Zash> True fact
[14:21:55] <SamWhited> Or WHATWG flavored markdown, I guess
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[14:23:17] <Kev> Everything is proceeding as I have forseen.
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[14:25:15] <Zash> > If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine
-- XHTML-IM probably
[14:25:42] <Link Mauve> Kev, same. :(
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[15:44:25] <jonas’> a good reason for '157 in stream features is that you have a way to contact an operator you cannot reach otherwise due to s2s issues.
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[15:44:35] <jonas’> ah no
[15:44:37] <jonas’> or maybe
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[15:44:56] <Zash> I was thinking account registration problems and such
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[15:47:25] <jonas’> that, too
[15:48:29] <Zash> Tho in the end there's the xmpp mailbox ( https://xmpp.org/rfcs/rfc6120.html#contact ) one can try, or one of {post,host,foo}master
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[15:48:43] <jonas’> hm, indeed
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[15:58:57] <Link Mauve> Zash, the vast majority of the operators I’ve encountered don’t have this mailbox.
[15:59:20] <Link Mauve> Operators generally don’t do what their server doesn’t require them to do.
[15:59:23] <Zash> make more noise about it
[15:59:33] <Link Mauve> Where?
[15:59:40] <Zash> Somewhere
[15:59:58] <Link Mauve> There is no way to automatedly check for that even, so no green checkmark race. :(
[15:59:58] <Zash> We've got this at least https://prosody.im/doc/public_servers#contact
[16:00:34] <Zash> Link Mauve: Email a thing and see if it gets delivered
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[16:00:55] <Link Mauve> Zash, sorry, I won’t spam every single XMPP operator there is.
[16:01:14] <jonas’> and ironically, you’re only spamming those who’re doing it right :(
[16:01:41] <Link Mauve> Yup.
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[16:01:49] <Zash> If they're unreachable, get them blacklisted somewhere
[16:01:51] <Zash> Public shaming!
[16:03:33] <Link Mauve> I’d expect that to cover 95+% (and I’m generous) of the XMPP services.
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[16:24:10] <vanitasvitae> Will there be a summit again in february?
[16:24:59] <Zash> yes
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