Saturday, October 27, 2018
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XSF Discussion | Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/ | Agenda https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings

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[08:46:19] <Seve> I'm not getting those emais still :(
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[08:58:22] <Ge0rG> Given a list of jabber servers, I need to find out which ones offer IBR. Any ideas how to pull that off? jonas’' aioxmpp bot skills maybe?
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[12:35:11] <flow> Ge0rG, I've a Smack REPL script which does something like that
[12:35:40] <flow> filtering a list of XMPP (server) addresses if they support IBR
[12:35:43] <flow> somewhere
[12:36:14] <flow> let me know if you are interested, I could dig it out or simply recreate it
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[12:45:42] <Ge0rG> flow: last time I failed to get smack repl to run
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[12:46:34] *Ge0rG would like to filter the jabber.at list by IBR, it seems to be the best one for the yaxim account creation dialog
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[12:53:33] <daniel> Ge0rG: https://compliance.conversations.im/api/compliant_servers/
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[12:54:27] <Ge0rG> daniel: those are the 100% servers? What about IBR?
[12:54:47] <daniel> Those are 100% servers that have ibr
[12:54:49] <Ge0rG> And how am I supposed to endorse a list that doesn't even have yax.im on it? 😜
[12:54:58] <Ge0rG> daniel: thanks
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[12:55:14] <daniel> Footnote: some servers might advertise ibr before Auth even though they don't support it
[12:56:13] <Ge0rG> daniel: can I get a full data set, including all the features and IBR? I'd like to loosen the requirements a bit
[12:57:08] <daniel> Because 20 servers aren't enough?
[12:57:29] <daniel> PR welcome but we don't have that yet
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[12:58:54] <Zash> Isn't that thing fairly specific to the requirements of Conversations?
[12:59:51] <Zash> Ie making things mandatory that don't matter for Yaxim
[13:00:09] <daniel> Sure. But I figure that every requirement is a subset of Conversations requirements
[13:00:19] <Zash> I disagree
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[13:03:45] <daniel> In what particular case?
[13:04:33] <Zash> Yaxim doesn't do OMEMO for example, but that appears to be a mandatory thing according to the thing.
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[13:05:14] <daniel> Right. But that's what I meant by subset. It doesn't hurt yaxim. So the list might be smaller than it could be
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[13:05:37] <daniel> But if the list is already big enough that might not be a problem
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[13:12:48] <Ge0rG> But it's not big enough, and this is a problem.
[13:14:08] <Zash> I'm also very sceptical of blindly chasing green checkmarks
[13:14:36] <Zash> Being good at getting green checkmarks doesn't necessarily make you a good admin
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[13:15:19] <daniel> > I'm also very sceptical of blindly chasing green checkmarks
I'm very very sceptical of any automated mechanism to suggest servers in the app
[13:15:39] <daniel> I personally wouldn't do that for Conversations
[13:15:58] <daniel> I'm just about gathering data and letting other people use that data for what ever
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[13:18:39] <Ge0rG> daniel: you have the new 0392 colors already, could you post a Screenshot of the colored nicknames in here?
[13:19:20] <daniel> https://share.gultsch.de/daniel/wCf1XJobUygdWPGO/X6DoRmDATEGYtBWwKCxObw.jpg
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[13:42:24] <flow> Ge0rG, what was the error message when you tried to run the REPL? Let me know if I can be of help
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[13:51:53] <Ge0rG> daniel: thanks, matches to my new output as well. Must be poezio at fault then...
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